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I need some help with components. I recently purchased a 2013 RAV4 and wanted to upgrade the sound system. I installed a set of kenwood 709 components starting with my front stage. These have decent sound, but not much cleaner than the factory speakers. I then installed a clarion xc1410 amp and a set of morel Maximo's. These are very detailed and I can hear details in music that I typically can not hear. The issue I am having..... The tweeters are mounted in the factory dash locations and fire up at the windshield. There is no attenuation at the crossover and my ears are fatigued. I built an L-pad and tuned down the highs, however feel I am loosing some of the mix and the tweets are still too bright. I am considering a set of jbl p660c and attenuating the tweet at -6db. Does anyone have experience with the p660c's in a dash install? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Get more amp channels and run them active. It helps to have some dsp to set them, but even just having sperates gain controls for them helps a lot.
Thanks for the idea... I am not sure I want to install another amp. I really like the convenience of the xc1410. Any thoughts on the p660c's. I tried to build an L-pad to -3db for the morels and it didn't do much. I figured with the -6db of the jbl' s it might help
 

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So I am wondering if I should look for a component set with a -3db slope or stick with the p660c that has a -6db slope for the tweeter. Does anyone have any recommendations considering these will fire at the windshield in the dash factory locations
 

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So I am wondering if I should look for a component set with a -3db slope or stick with the p660c that has a -6db slope for the tweeter. Does anyone have any recommendations considering these will fire at the windshield in the dash factory locations
I used to run a Honda factory HU with some amplified Polk components. I was able to tame the tweets with a combination of the HU Treble control and the -3dB switch on the Polk xover. BUT, I was never fully satisfied. Only a new headunit with EQ or a DSP is likely to fully scratch that itch in my opinion. The P660C's are excellent speakers (I run a set active now with a DEH-80PRS and love them) but -6dB may or may not satisfy you. Seems a shame to toss the Morel's on a gamble that may or may not pay off. For a lot less money, buy a pair of L-Pads from PartsExpress and experiment... partsexpress

If that doesn't satisfy, then consider a processor or new head unit. The PPI DSP88R isn't much more than you were going to spend on the P660C's
 

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Just a follow-up...... I have read it time and time again on several audio websites. Installation is everything. I purchased both the Morel Maximo and JBL P660C component sets. The morels are very detailed with a focus on mids and highs. The Jbl's seem to have decent highs and lows, however are missing some of the detail in the mid-range that I hear in the morels. The Morels seem to be in a different class of sound quality. At first install, I placed the morel tweeters in the factory locations. They were waaay to bright to listen to....almost fatiguing to listen to. So I purchased the JBL' s to install instead of the morels. I can tell you that the JBLs lacked the musical detail and I missed the morels immediately. I put the morel tweeters back into the morel housings and ditched the factory mounts. I then cut two, three inch discs out of 3/4 inch MDF and mounted the tweeters to the discs. I then mounted the tweeter assembly inside of the space where the factory tweeters were mounted. I angled the tweeters off axis and replaced the covers. The change in sound, with the tweeters off axis is amazing. They are detailed and full. With a sub properly tuned you do not miss the mid bass that everyone talks about in reviews. In a previous car I had a pair of diamond audio d6 components. They were detailed and clear, however, I think I like the morels better. I will be returning the JBL's or selling them. They are decent, however, not in the same class as the morels.
 
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