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Well I started listening to the sets I have received so far. Not going to go into detail yet bit I will say that the Realms are very impressive.
 

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I am still waiting on the helix, rainbow, and PHD to be delivered. I have tested all the sets I have so far and would have to rate the hertz as the number one overall (sq, durability, imaging, etc). I would have rated the JBL on the same level but they did not hold up (the surround came apart from the basket). The Realm are amazing in their own category, they have great tonal accuracy however do not image well off axis due to a high crossover point and inverted dome (they would make a nice home set). I am going to have a much detailed report when I am finished with them all but figured to give some quick thoughts.
 

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Just listened to the morel's, Wow, very clear. The tweeter is so far the best out of the bunch so far. The mid doesn't like too much power though, wouldn't cross anything lower than 80hz. Again alot more details to come. Still waiting on deliveries. I did get the PHD speakers in however the package was crushed so I am trying to resolve that as well.
 

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Just listened to the morel's, Wow, very clear. The tweeter is so far the best out of the bunch so far. The mid doesn't like too much power though, wouldn't cross anything lower than 80hz. Again alot more details to come. Still waiting on deliveries. I did get the PHD speakers in however the package was crushed so I am trying to resolve that as well.
How would you rate Morel vs Hertz in general ?
I am confused which to buy. the normal tempo (157$) or the esk 165 (205$).
 

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How would you rate Morel vs Hertz in general ?
I am confused which to buy. the normal tempo (157$) or the esk 165 (205$).
I will give a small review of what I have heard and concluded so far:

Massive zk6: Do not waste your time, midbass extremely muddy, tweeter has no life, stay away. Def 1/10

Alpine type x ref: The midbass was ok, lacked low end authority, and did not like too much power. The tweeter did have top end sparkle but was not extremely clean sounding. The tweeter did not handle off axis as well as some of the others. I would say 4/10

Hertz HSK 165: The midbass is very unique, it responded fast, was able to play low (not as low as others), handle power, and produce a clean full bodied midrange. The tweeter had excellent off axis performance, had the top end sparkle when needed however at times sounded too saturated. Overall a very impressive set, not worth the retail price in my opinion but definitely at a discount. I would rate a solid 8/10

Morel Tempo Ultra: The midbass was the weakest link. It has great low end response however lacked the clarity and fast attack when compared to others. The midbass also could not handle as much power. The tweeter is the shinning gem in this set. Had great top end sparkle, great off axis response, but definitely unique to a specific sound signature. The tweeter could use some more of the upper midrange to fill it out. I would say 5.5/10 (the midbass needs improvement)

PHD 6.1 Pro: I would define this set as very well rounded. Nothing out performed however everything was extremely well balanced. The midbass had good low end extension, fast attack, clear, and could handle power. The tweeter had a full body sound, clear, but did lack some of the top end sparkle. This set would definitely be for the person who gets fatigued by the top end of the spectrum since the tweeter naturally rolls off early. I am sure you could boost those frequencies with an eq to get a little more of of it. Because of the value, I would say 7.5/10

Polk MM6501: Surprise! I added this to the group last night. I am highly impressed with this set. The midbass is definitly the superstar. So far the midbass is the best of the group. Had great low end extension, extremely fast midrange, extremely clear, and loved power. My only gripe would be it has a higher resonance when mounted in an application so make sure you deaden your door well. The tweeter performed well, it had good off axis performance, good top end sparkle (at time maybe a tad too much), but not as clean sounding in the upper midrange spectrum as lets say the PHD tweeter. Overall though this set is an exceptional value. I am biased towards having more top end sparkle so this set hit it home with me. I would rate 8.5/10

Realm LSC6: Out of the entire group this set could handle power the best. The midbass had the best low end extension out of the group, was extremely clean sounding, however not as fast reacting. The tweeter had the most top end sparkle out of all the sets however is crossed so high it has poor off axis performance and is not practical to use in a vehicle unless you are doing custom fabrication to aim the mid and tweet in the kick panel together. I wouldn't call this set a reference quality but definitely a great sound set of speakers. If I were competing in sql I would be running these. I think I am going to make some bookshelf speakers for my study with these. I would rate 7/10
 

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Thank you man !
It would be cool to add some more :D
like focal ...
I have been searching web for like a week and this is the first review I find to answer me.
 

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I am adding Image Dynamics CXS64 v.2 and Infinity Kappa Perfect 6.1 to the test group, Image Dynamics should be delivered tomorrow. Trying to get my hands on a set of Focal 165AS.
 

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Its official, was able to get a hold of a set of Focal 165AS and JBL GTO608C. No more! lol
 

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Thank you David !
I wish you explained what type of music you like. etc...

I have read many reviews that Hertz have too bright/harsh tweeters. And that the Morels/Audison for example are warmer to listen to.

How do you find these claims ?
 

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Thank you David !
I wish you explained what type of music you like. etc...

I have read many reviews that Hertz have too bright/harsh tweeters. And that the Morels/Audison for example are warmer to listen to.

How do you find these claims ?
The hertz are not too bright (they do have top end sparkle though), however are not the cleanest sounding tweeter, I can't put my finger on it. Not sure if it is due to a little distortion coming through or an too much upper midrange output that sounds a tad too saturated. It is a very good tweeter so don't let these negatives out shine that this is still a very good tweeter.

The morel are "warm" because of the lack up upper mid range output, sort of sounds thin, but then it has that top end sparkle, very interesting sounding tweeter.

I wish the PHD tweeter had more top end sparkle, if so it would have been my favorite. I did not try to eq it because I want to listen to all sets as how they come.
 

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The image dynamics were delivered and sadly damaged. The baskets on both midbass driver are cracked. They seem very fragile and due to how fragile they are I am not going to test them.
 

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One thing to keep in mind is that some sets may sound better and crisper, others may not, and the better sounding ones may give you headaches or ear pain after hours of listening. And some people may be more sensitive than others. Tweeter positioning may also reduce the fatigue some may suffer from it in a car.
 

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One thing to keep in mind is that some sets may sound better and crisper, others may not, and the better sounding ones may give you headaches or ear pain after hours of listening. And some people may be more sensitive than others. Tweeter positioning may also reduce the fatigue some may suffer from it in a car.
Absolutely agree, however there are certain details that should be heard in the upper frequencies that some sets wont reproduce due to how laid back the tweeter is.
 

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I am still waiting on the helix, rainbow, and PHD to be delivered. I have tested all the sets I have so far and would have to rate the hertz as the number one overall (sq, durability, imaging, etc). I would have rated the JBL on the same level but they did not hold up (the surround came apart from the basket). The Realm are amazing in their own category, they have great tonal accuracy however do not image well off axis due to a high crossover point and inverted dome (they would make a nice home set). I am going to have a much detailed report when I am finished with them all but figured to give some quick thoughts.
I had a feeling the Hertz would do well.
 
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