get a moped with a 50cc motor:laugh:
Just trying to keep ya from getting killed snookums:helmet:Where's that pink limp-wrist icon when I need it! :whip:
fixed.Just trying to keep ya from killing anyone and living with regret the rest of your life snookums:helmet:
see aboveget yourself a little 150cc dirt bike and spend a few afternoons playing in a field before you take a risk with your life (and hers) on any streets.get used to the way a bike handles/performs.
NOT THE SAME RIDING STYLE. VERY DIFFERENT HANDLING IN DIRT
they are very dangerous and very different to a car.
They are dangerous. They are very different than a car.
that bmw you linked to could break your leg in 3 places easy if you do the wrong thing.
And a 400lb 250cc cruiser cant?
ride a lightweight/docile 250 for the first year.
Nothing wrong with this, but not "right" either. Even the MSF doesnt give out BS like this. They recomend
1. Under 400lbs
2. Under 30" seat height
3. Under 50(i think) HP.
Meet these requirements to learn and you have the best chance at fun and success.
fast heavy bike and little experience = serious problems.
The only completely true statement here, but a fast light bike will kill you too, just easier to pick up when you drop it.
I rode for a few years exclusively (meaning I had no car at all) before switching back to 4 wheels for family reasons.
In those years, I learned a few things:
1. Take a class, and get certified. It is the law and it is common sense.
2. Beware the dirt roads. I would never, ever take a bike that has pure street tires on a dirt road. The stability or lack thereof is directly attributed to the tires you are using. If a bike is to take even 5% of its time on a dirt road, I'd recommend you choose a setup more attuned to that. It could be as simple as swapping tires, not necessarily a different bike.
3. I've owned a Buell XB9 CityX, and a Honda VFR800, and rode countless other bikes as part of my job as a service writer for a bike shop in the past. I'd recommend to a beginner something with good handlebar turning sweep, since getting out of trouble is impossible once you run out of bar to turn. Look for that when you pick out a bike...Turn the bars, and notice how much lock you have back and forth. The more, the better for beginners.
4. I'd recommend a bike with modest torque and a docile power curve, so it doesn't get away from you if you accidentally blip the throttle of if you get in a slippery situation (like dirt!)
5. I'd recommend a bike that you can get parts for wherever you are. If there is a Yamaha dealer near you but a Duc dealer is 500 miles away, this should sway your decision.
I don't really know you but the Honda Nighthawk is a decent bike and holds it's value. You state you don't want some big-goldwing but I fail to see the difference between that and the BMW.
The BMW will not be cheap to fix, and you don't want the hobby to kick your ass financially. I looked into BMW's when I was looking because they weren't like assholes (everybody did not have one) but I decided against it due to the price and eventually gave up when I moved out to the country.
i know braking distance is very important.60 obviously doesnt ride, and buys into the fear mongering
If the story mentioned the bike braking at any time that may be worth pointing out, however:i know braking distance is very important.
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Truth. But like anything, DIY FTW. Parts will kill you, no doubt. But before I got my Triumph I was checking out some Ducati ST bikes, and the early 00' bikes had a 6k mile maint. schedule, at ~$600 a pop. And the VFR's with Vtec have a ~$800 valve adjustment. Unfortunately, they are not the simple machines of old.The points you brought up are why I was looking at them, lighter, reliable, and different...... BUT as anything mechanical, they will break, no matter how reliable and after going to the BMW repair center and pricing some things I chose a different path.
I also liked the lower center of gravity. I have short legs, a low center of gravity means a lot to me.
I also wanted a mid-80's Yammy Fazer700 REALLY bad.