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Some content is obviousely intended, created. Some content is obviousely from human voices and the mixers simply didnt HP the mics. Some is obviousely a bi product from creating sounds, not the sound itself... like a snair or high hat electronicly generated that has subsonic effects that weren't removed.

I don't care. I LOVE it all. I always have. I have only had a huge HT for about 2 years now and barely had the huge van as it's only survived a week or two a few times before I smashed coils from over excursion, or this last time ripped coils from spiders at the tripple joints..cuz down that low it's just not loud enough.

This isn't a new discovery of mine, I have been obsessed with infrasonics since I was a teen though I've very rarely gotten to experience it. But if it's not intended, is it OK to LOVE it? I have been fighting a battle for years on the forums, but as of recently I've been able to make some headway after creating some "good" low end systems.

Here are just a few songs out of so many songs that have infra... I have heard it in music for years, but I grabbed the camera and did searches on a few songs I recall off hand.

ATTENTION: EXPLICIT LYRICS (Though a very thoughtful meaningful song if you can deal with it) WITH EXTREME ULF CONTENT AT PARTS (Though the camera can barely capture it so don't worry about it)

The infrasonics in this track are from words: Bilabial, Labio-dental, Dental, Interdental, and Alveolar sounds that were not High Passed (HP'ed) from the mic during recording/mixing. Not intentionally created, but not removed either.

Pick The World Up Eminem Lil' Wayne

Pick The World Up Eminem Lil' Wayne - YouTube

This one seems to be a bi product of the drum beat. After the intro when it starts thumping there is a subsonic thump matching the high bass thump. Intentional or bi product I don't know...but either way... I like it.

Put On Young Jeezy Kanye West

Put On Young Jeezy Kanye West - YouTube

This one is clearly intentional. It goes with certain parts of the song. It is so low that in the van it is unimpressive, too far below tuning, but with the towers (tuned to 13.4Hz) it was fun, and now...tuned to 5Hz EQed and crossed over...amazing.

Marilyn Manson The Nobody's

Marilyn Manson The Nobody's - YouTube

This one right here earned me "Douche Bag of the Month" on SMD forum, as I put a shirt in the window, stood outside the van, and tried to explain how I like the <30Hz content nobody else cares for and how I like 35Hz-50Hz attenuated...opposite of most. I had to delete the video as it caused a lot of trouble with so many bad comments on youtube and bad links to my threads on other forums to SMD's DB of the month thread.
Anyway, it's clearly intentional..again, I like it.

Tupac Dido Don't You Trust Me

Tupac Dido Don't You Trust Me - YouTube

When I built "The Aztek Box", a semi-quasi-wall that was really just a 21.5 cubic foot enclosure that took up most of the hatch facing forward tuned to 15Hz, I downloaded a bunch of Gucci and this song struck me instantly. The subsoinics are again phonetics simply not HPed from the mic, but again, LOVE it..especially Minaj

Gucci Mane Nicki Minaj Slumber Party

Gucci Mane Nicki Minaj Slumber Party - YouTube

OJ Da Juice Man Gucci Mane Half A Brick

OJ Da Juice Man Gucci Mane Half A Brick - YouTube

Gucci Mane Jay Z Kanye West Lil' Wayne Bad Guy

Gucci Mane Jay Z Kanye West Lil' Wayne Bad Guy - YouTube

Gucci Mane Walking On Ice OJ Da Juiceman Twista

Gucci Mane Walking On Ice OJ Da Juiceman Twista - YouTube

Juvenile Slow Motion

Juvenile Slow Motion - YouTube

Eminem 25 To Life

Eminem 25 To Life - YouTube

Gorilla Zoe Ft Yung Joc Juice Box DJ Zemix Remix

Gorilla Zoe Ft Yung Joc Juice Box DJ Zemix Remix - YouTube

LAST AND CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, the LOWEST effects I have ever experienced in music OR movies.. even with my 4 18's in 1003 cubic feet tuned to 5.25Hz with 5000RMS on tap, Behringer EQ heavily boosting a wide center at 20Hz and heavily attenuating a medium center at 40Hz, and with my receiver LP set to 40Hz, at extreme levels... it is very hard to detect the lowest parts of this... it's even lower than Opus Dei's 3Hz pulses it seems...IDK......

Marylin Manson Cryptorchild

Marylin Manson Cryptorchild - YouTube

If I ever get to do another van build, I will be tuning subsonically again... and find a way to be able to do a rear brace without interfering. I had to bump from 110 cubic feet 15Hz tune to 45 cubic feet 22Hz tune in the van before it tore itself apart :(
 

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No. It is not okay. Clearly you are a freak of nature.


In all seriousness, lots of people love bass, myself included. One of the CDs in my car CD changer is always a Crystal Method CD that I like to listen to with cranked bass once in a while. Just be careful not to damage your hearing too badly.
 

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No. It is not okay. Clearly you are a freak of nature.


In all seriousness, lots of people love bass, myself included. One of the CDs in my car CD changer is always a Crystal Method CD that I like to listen to with cranked bass once in a while. Just be careful not to damage your hearing too badly.
the prodigy is really good too!

becarefull you dont damage your subs too. ultra low stuff with no SSF can pop em quick if you are not paying attention.
 

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Lol, you are not alone.... I've been obsessed with the lows since the 90's. In 2000, iirc, just when the l7 15's came out, i built a bed box for 2 on a crawl-through in my yota, and it would not even play anything above 55hz... As for the young jeezy put on, well that song pizzes me off because it has such a nice low note in it, but the track recording has it attenuated real quiet.... I often concidered re-recording it with a higher db correction for just that note..... Also, take a listen to disturbed-linerate....it ends with a long low, though not quite ss....
 

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The song Princeton Review by Team Sleep. Ultra low bass. I had an EBS aligned Shiva in a 5.5 cubic foot box tuned to 18Hz taking up my whole trunk. That song ripped the cone from the spider, but it sounded -so- nice before that happened.

Before I blew the driver, I was surprised at all the songs that have occasional subsonics in them. I liken the experience to having a superior front stage where you go back through all your music to hear what high-frequency stuff you have been missing. With all of the people tuning their subs higher or running sealed it's nice to be able to own the bottom half-octave and have that extra response.

With cabin gain it's easy to go low. Some day I want to try an EBS alignment for a 10 inch driver in car. It would only be ~ 2.5 cubes but have that same extension.
 

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I'd imagine with all the space you have in the van, you could get a better subsonic response by building some kind of super low tuned horn loaded enclosure with like 1 or 2 18's, instead of a bunch of them with just a big tube port and keep bottoming them out. Would probably take quite a bit of research and learning to get it right, but when you do, I bet it'd be very impressive.
 
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