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OK, since the Kia is gone, I guess I'll start a build thread for the new car.

I'm not planning to use any of the old equipment in the new car.
Here's the current (evolving) plan...but I haven't bought anything yet.

Head Unit
Pioneer AVIC-4100NEX
PAC Audio SWI-RC for steering wheel controls.
May use an Arduino to integrate the knob in the center console.
If I don't use the SWI-RC, I will probably do an iDatalink Maestro RR
Axxess Interfaces AX-MAZCAM-6V to retain the factory backup camera
Microbypass Parking brake interface
Axxess Interfaces AX-USB-35-EXT USB/Aux plate (there is an issue with retaining the factory port in the center console)
Metra 95-7522B Dash kit

Front Stage

Illusion Audio C3CX 3" point source coaxes, likely on the a-pillar
Illusion Audio C8W 8" shallow midbass in the door. Not cutting the car up this time, or giving up my foot room. Besides, there's a fuse box in the
kick panel.

Subwoofer(s)

Acoustic Elegance IB12AU's (I have a 14 cu ft trunk, and the numbers say 2 of these give me a system Q of .702)

Signal Processing

Undecided, but leaning toward:

Mosconi 4to6 or 6to8v8
Mosconi RC Mini (so I can use an Arduino to interface my volume controls with the processor)

Power/Ground Distribution/Wire

I saved my Streetwires Distro block and ground block from the Rio.
Will probably pick up a 200A breaker for up by the battery.
Power/speaker wire will likely be from Knu Koncepts again. Second choice is Tspec (which I can get locally).

Probably going to run 14ga to all the speakers, and 12 or 10 to the subs.

There may or may not be some Techflex involved. lol

Amplification

Currently thinking about either (2) Alpine PDX-V9's, or a PDX-F4, and F6 and an M12.
I'm leaning toward these because I might build an amp rack that hangs from the rear deck and I could hide all the wires, and the controls would all face out for easy accessibilty.

This car ACTUALLY came with a spare tire, and I want to leave it in there, if I go with my second choice amps (2 Arc Audio KS300.4's and a KS1200.1) or 3rd choice (Mosconi) I'd have to put them down there.

Sound Control/NVH

Mainly Soundskins deadener and speaker rings (although FAST rings might make an appearance if Soundskins doesn't have an 8" ring)
MLV (at least in the front doors.)

RCA's

Probably Stinger 6000 series.

That's my current plan. I'm sure it will change some before I start tearing the car apart.

The Victim:



2015 Mazda 6i Touring, in Snowflake white pearl. Black Leather(ette) interior.
19" wheels, manually shiftable automatic transmission (no paddles), dual zone A/C, rear seat heat/A/C vents, push button start, etc.

It will be getting tinted with Panaflex heat rejection window film.

The current HU has HD Radio, USB, Aux, Pandora control, Bluetooth and hands free. And the implementation of just about all of it is horrible.
Since I don't have Bose, the radio doesn't control any of the car's options, so changing it won't present a problem.
However, cars with the Bose option have a 9" woofer in the door. And I've seen TheJesus' build thread on here and Mazda6club's forum, and he got Hybrid L8's in his, so the C8's should be easy. Haha.

Rear speakers will remain off the radio power, so that I can fade them off or on when there are rear passengers.

That's what I'm thinking anyway...lol

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Sounds like this one is going to be really nice. If you decide you want to go with Arc KSs, let me know. I've got a KS900.6 and KS600.2 in great condition that I'll be selling soon.
 

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Thanks guys.

I'm going to try to collect everything before I put it in and go with a solid plan of attack instead of making changes part way through.

I'm enjoying this car a lot right now, and I like to drive when we travel, so I want to keep it's functionality intact.

If I don't go IB, I'll do some shallow subs so I don't lose too much of my trunk.

It's 45" deep at the bottom, the rear seat opening is 39" wide and from floor to rear deck brace is about 16 or 16.5"

I almost want to keep my Bitone, but I'd like something with more (some) parametric bands. Not a fan of the PS-8.

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I've been very happy with my 6to8 V8. I know some people don't care for the Mosconi interface, but I haven't had any issues with it.
 

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The Mosconi processors do have parametric EQ. The newer models group the EQ differently than the old.
 

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JayinMI,,,,,, my opinion I think you should do the build in the jeep in the back ground,,,,, you might get more followers,,,, lol.
That Jeep has had all the "system" it's probably going to get since '09. lol
My GF doesn't care about sounds. She let me put a radio, amp and sub in it because I drive in it ocassionally. Admittedly, she does like the radio and CarPlay.

For the record, it has:

Pioneer AVIC 4200NEX
TMA 4 channel amp
JL Audio 8w3 on the fender well because I had to remove the Infinity sub to make room for her brother's wheelchair lift.

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Hey Jay,

That is one of the best carד today a person can get if he intends to install an after market audio system!

The doors are made to endorse 9 inch woofers due to the bose system option.

I had a friend which installed a morel elate 903 in the stock locations - on a Genesis dual mono extreme (903 passive setup).

A small touch of time correction, minimal eq correction and the car sounds like a dream.
 

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Thanks guys.



I'm going to try to collect everything before I put it in and go with a solid plan of attack instead of making changes part way through.



I'm enjoying this car a lot right now, and I like to drive when we travel, so I want to keep it's functionality intact.



If I don't go IB, I'll do some shallow subs so I don't lose too much of my trunk.



It's 45" deep at the bottom, the rear seat opening is 39" wide and from floor to rear deck brace is about 16 or 16.5"



I almost want to keep my Bitone, but I'd like something with more (some) parametric bands. Not a fan of the PS-8.



Jay


If u decide to part with the Bit One, keep me in mind. Looking for one


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I keep going back and forth on changing the processor.
I've had the BitOne.1 for about 8 years now and other than an LCD display issue on an old DRC, it's been bullet proof.

I've also already interfaced the steering wheel controls with the DRC in my old car (so I already know how to do that, and it wouldn't be much more than changing the button values to get it to work in this car).

The software is pretty simple to figure out. If the 6to8 had a similar GUI I'd have already switched. lol

The only down side, and I haven't experienced this personally, is that if you try to feed an optical signal sampled at something over 44.1k, it will lock up, I'm told. Not a big deal for me, unless I change to a Sony GS9 or something in the future (not real likely).

Either way, I'll probably post all the stuff I decide to sell this weekend, including my C10XL and my 3 Sony Mobile ES amps. I also have a set of budger Kenwood components and a Dayton RSS265HO. There will be a few things going up soon.

I did pick up my radio of choice today from a co worker. It's used, but I got it for about $60 below cost and it came with a harness, dash kit (not for my car) and a Microbypass.

That will be going in soon because the factory radio sucks.

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Hey Jay,

That is one of the best carד today a person can get if he intends to install an after market audio system!

The doors are made to endorse 9 inch woofers due to the bose system option.

I had a friend which installed a morel elate 903 in the stock locations - on a Genesis dual mono extreme (903 passive setup).

A small touch of time correction, minimal eq correction and the car sounds like a dream.
Yeah. The car is very solid, and even with 37000 miles on it doesn't squeak or rattle. I saw TheJesus' build thread on here and on the Mazda forum and he got Hybrid Legatia L8's in the doors. My plan is for Illusion C8W's in the doors (with lots of Soundskins and some MLV) and some Illusion C3CX's initially in the dash, but later probably in pods on the a-pillar.

Mine didn't come with the Bose option (thankfully) but I like that the option for a large woofer is there.

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As for bit rate - the Bit One HD does 24/192 so you don't get the power cycling issue any more when you use Android 6 for example and you would also be able to use the GS9 if that is the case.

This is also true for the BIT TEN D

The only thing I am not sure of is if the Bit One HD can work with the old DRC just as well. I know the Bit Play can work with either one of them but the HD processor - not sure.

P.S - For android 6 in many cases you can change the sound configuration file so that it won't try to sync any higher than 16/48
 

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I'm not going to run my tablet (which is only like Android 4.4 anyway), and most likely not a GS9, so I'm not that concerned with it. The BitOne sold, so I need to come up with something. Looking at the Helix DSP.2 right now, but that could change.

I drive a lot and have never gotten around to competeing, so I'm using a Pioneer NEX radio as my head unit.

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Yeah, I thought I'd probably stay with My Nexus 7 and sabre DAC forever - The custome ROM I use on it was 4.4 based too.

But eventually some application I really liked to install no longer supported anything lower than 5.1 and the Nexus hardware started failing on me - Charging port - fixed, battery, swapped but finally the internal storage gave up...

When I got sick of being tied up to a single tablet and looking for smartphones that support USB Audio and host - Getting them to work without audio issues each time the OS upgraded I finally decided that for me it is not the way to go.

So I went and got my self a Mosconi AMAS-2 and hooked it up to my Bit One Optical in and ever since that moment I can simply use as a head unit what ever comes up in mind that can stream audio via BT.

The AMAS-2 can hook it self up to anything that has an optical input and it is connected directly to the car electrical system - Another option you may consider.
 
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