I need remotes!
Please 2 is what need.
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Please 2 is what need.
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What's amazing (impressive) is that Andy, his team, and JBL managed to bring a product to the market that now a decade later is still uniquely capable and competitive in the market.I cant help you, I just find it amazing that this thread is still going.
I agree and I have got a boatload of them in an air condition closet for spares until something else better comes along.What's amazing (impressive) is that Andy, his team, and JBL managed to bring a product to the market that now a decade later is still uniquely capable and competitive in the market.
We're fortunate that in addition to the unique features, they managed to produce an item that's proven reasonably robust. It's still quite possible to find units that haven't been abused, haven't had critical components lost, and have every reasonable expectation of delivering great SQ for a long time to come, all at a very good price on the used market.
You can find items that touch some of the bases, but still nothing that covers all of the bases the MS8 does. Nope, it's not for everyone, never was, but there's still nothing else that touches it in the niche it was designed to fill. And that niche still exists.
My suggestion is to get what you have working properly first and then add to it. To make it easy, I would cross your front JBLs @ 80hz and your rear JBLs @ 100hz - all at a 24db slope.I just got my 2019 Nissan Altima SR non-Bose system installed and am having some strange distortion on 3/4 volume and a tough time tuning. If I do tuning myself with processing defeated it sounds better overall tonally but lack the time alignment, at that point it is just crossovers and EQ. See my setup below and recommend my next course of action. Be it active 2 way in the front using my existing speakers, 3 way with a midrange from the same series, make a center using an aftermarket enclosure and 6.5" coaxial, change DSP, or settle with what I have gotten. I have tried the measurements several times with level matching and various volumes but still am getting the same issues. Tweeters in factory dash locations, woofers in the front door, 6x9's in rear deck. Sub in the trunk facing outward.
JBL GX608C 2 way 6.5" Component - Passively crossed over fed from Channels 1&2 of Kenwood Excelon X301.4
JBL GX 3 way 6x9 Coaxials - Channels 3&4 of Kenwood Excelon X301.4
Diamond Audio 12" Sub inside of OBcon Godzilla Slotted Enclosure. Single Channel of Kenwood Excelon X500.1
Thank you Killer Box,My suggestion is to get what you have working properly first and then add to it. To make it easy, I would cross your front JBLs @ 80hz and your rear JBLs @ 100hz - all at a 24db slope.
Your subsonic filter needs to be set according to your tuning frequency of your box and subs. (You don't want any speaker trying to play a frequency it is not capable of playing)
I would then find the maximum volume on your Nissan radio by turning it up until you see ok, ok, ok on the MS-8. This is around the maximum you need to turn up the Nissan radio.
Then run the MS-8 auto-tune with your amplifier gains at minimum and (rough guessing around -35) on the MS-8.
After the auto-tune, turn the MS-8 up to -6 on its volume. Then with a Zero Bit track MS-8 volume @ -6 and the predetermined maximum volume on the Nissan radio, turn up your front amplifier gain until you start to hear a hiss from your tweeters and then turn it back down a little bit. This is your maximum undistorted volume level for the Nissan, amplifier and MS-8.
Turn volume back down and set the other amplifier gains the similar amount of gain. Then play a track that you are familiar with to make sure your speakers are NOT being overpowered and everything blends together.
P.S. Save yourself a lot of time, by downloading a free speaker pop program for your phone and verify that each midrange speaker is in positive polarity (by disconnecting all other speakers other than the one you are verifying) before doing the MS-8. (The tweeters may in negative polarity depending on your passive crossovers.) The subwoofer also may be in negative polarity depending on what sounds the best in your system. So you I would try the subwoofer both polarities and rerun the calibration each time.
Also, the MS-8 does a better job if you can disconnect or cover the tweeters for the first step in each seating position. This makes the time alignment work off the midrange location instead of the tweeter's location.
Suggest you ask yourself: "Why do I want to add the center?"Now I want to add the center speaker.
Yes, for two front listening position.Suggest you ask yourself: "Why do I want to add the center?"
IF to provide a less-compromised stage for two front listening positions, then ask yourself: "What 'axis' makes sense when considering two positions?"
This paper has some good insight into how to mount speakers on the dash in relation to the windshield: Considerations for the Optimal Location and Boundary Effects for Loudspeakers in an Automotive InteriorRegarding the axis, my understanding is that
the center speaker on the center of the dash can be on-axis for
driver and passenger, since both positions are still in the 30 degree
envelope of the speaker (left and right of course).
Dang.This paper has some good insight into how to mount speakers on the dash in relation to the windshield: Considerations for the Optimal Location and Boundary Effects for Loudspeakers in an Automotive Interior
It is still one of the few DSP's that has a solid auto tune option without spending ~$1000 and still requiring a lot of user knowledge and involvement. I was planning on getting the CDSP 8x12 (before Dirac Live was announced) but then decided to buy a used MS8 because it was a good deal cheaper and I figured it would give me a solid idea of what a well tuned system can really sound like. Will be going in my mom's truck whenever I decide to splurge on a CDSP 8x12 DL.I cant help you, I just find it amazing that this thread is still going.
This paper has some good insight into how to mount speakers on the dash in relation to the windshield: Considerations for the Optimal Location and Boundary Effects for Loudspeakers in an Automotive Interior
Nice!Just want to report, following the paper, here is my center channel.
The speaker is the same fullrange as the front R/L,
the box is custom made.
I got mine installed in the factory location. It's not hooked up yet. I have to replace a tweeter before I can retune the ms-8.
Speaker is a Dayton CX120-8 4" coaxial driver with a 3/4" silk tweeter in the middle.