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Upgraded to the 64 gig iPhone 4s and decided to finally work on my lossless library since I now have some space to play with.

824 songs, 100% lossless....24.5 gigs worth. LOL

Isn't that like...9000 regular MP3's worth of space? LOL
 

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Are you using aac? Even for lossless that sounds a little too big. I have 863 lossless tracks on mine and it takes up about 10gb.
 

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Just imported songs straight off of CD's using Lossless....reading the amount of songs and space used at the bottom of the song list on iTunes.

That's about all I know about it.
 

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The bigger the file the better the sound. So sounds like a positive trade off to me.
looking to get some new tunes myself. Any good resources you you can link me to?
 

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There's some good links floating around on this site that I still need to sift through. This session was just getting stuff off my CD's that I wanted plus all the Focal discs that I already had.
 

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Well damn :( was hoping you had something new that was outside of diy.
But thanks anyway :beerchug:
 

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the bigger the file the better the sound? Wrong...

Let's try an example like this...
X=9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

That's 100 9s... It takes 100 characters to write it out. How many ways can we make the same number and make it be lossless?
How about 1+1+1+1+1+ .......... That's gonna be extremely wasteful isn't it? Namely since it's gonna take 2X-1 characters to write it out.
How about if we just write
(10^100)-1
That's just 10 characters to make the same number, as opposed to 100. Smaller file, same information.

Then of course we can have the lossy entry
9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999997
being larger than the lossless entry (10^100)-1

The importance is NOT the size of the file, it's the quality of data that the file is holding. That lossy entry may be larger than the lossless one, but it's less accurate than the lossless in this situation. Also, any of the lossless ones have identical data, no matter how large the actual file is.

Anyway, back to the
 

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the bigger the file the better the sound? Wrong...

Let's try an example like this...
X=9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

That's 100 9s... It takes 100 characters to write it out. How many ways can we make the same number and make it be lossless?
How about 1+1+1+1+1+ .......... That's gonna be extremely wasteful isn't it? Namely since it's gonna take 2X-1 characters to write it out.
How about if we just write
(10^100)-1
That's just 10 characters to make the same number, as opposed to 100. Smaller file, same information.

Then of course we can have the lossy entry
9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999997
being larger than the lossless entry (10^100)-1

The importance is NOT the size of the file, it's the quality of data that the file is holding. That lossy entry may be larger than the lossless one, but it's less accurate than the lossless in this situation. Also, any of the lossless ones have identical data, no matter how large the actual file is.

Anyway, back to the
Amen - just because a file is compressed, doesn't mean it is lossy. :)
 

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And just cause it's lossy doesn't make it compressed :p

Also realized my last post was unfinished, sorta trailed off.

What format of lossless is it? Something like FLAC or ALAC will probably be smaller than whatever format you're using, might be as much as 30-50% smaller.
 

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I usually take my FLAC songs (I know they are true FLAC) and I use FOOBAR to convert it down to 500Kbs or so since the difference is so minimal it isn't worth having it take up the rest of the space especially for car usage
 

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824 songs, 100% lossless....24.5 gigs worth. LOL
Think of it this way, you could always carry 824 songs around on CDs for your true lossless. Assuming you spent the time to make custom CDs with the songs you wanted, averaging 14 songs per CD, you'd have to burn 59 discs. I'd rather have the iPhone.:laugh:
 

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Think of it this way, you could always carry 824 songs around on CDs for your true lossless. Assuming you spent the time to make custom CDs with the songs you wanted, averaging 14 songs per CD, you'd have to burn 59 discs. I'd rather have the iPhone.
That's what I did, rather than spending 500 bucks on an iPhone. Then again I don't make "custom" CDs, I only do exact copies of the originals so I can afford to get them lost/broken/scratched. The only question is: Can you navigate the iPhone or the CD book faster?
 

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That's what I did, rather than spending 500 bucks on an iPhone. Then again I don't make "custom" CDs, I only do exact copies of the originals so I can afford to get them lost/broken/scratched. The only question is: Can you navigate the iPhone or the CD book faster?
I actually use a 120 gig ipod through my 9887, and I'd be willing I could find the song faster on the iPod through my head unit than I could fumbling around for the CD with that particular song on it while driving.:laugh:

Then again, the quality of my audio files depends on the quality of the music. Something like Pink Floyd gets lossless, no matter what. Most modernly produced, over compressed music gets 320 kbps MP3 because it isn't worthy of lossless.
 

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I actually use a 120 gig ipod through my 9887, and I'd be willing I could find the song faster on the iPod through my head unit than I could fumbling around for the CD with that particular song on it while driving.:laugh:

Then again, the quality of my audio files depends on the quality of the music. Something like Pink Floyd gets lossless, no matter what. Most modernly produced, over compressed music gets 320 kbps MP3 because it isn't worthy of lossless.
I agree that Pink Floyd must be lossless, and since I listen to them quite often I just use CDs since my headunit doesn't have a digital input for an iPod. But I just do everything lossless. My headunit doesn't have a search feature like that, gotta scroll through the menu on the iPod. In either case though, I have every position of every CD in my book along with the track order on each CD memorized... Kinda OCD, I can find a song without looking, I can't do that on the iPod :p
 

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lol, I used to do the same thing before connecting the HU to an iPod. My CD book was organized by genre since my listening habits could vary greatly. For example, I may start out the day in a Slayer mood, and end up listening to some Miles Davis on the drive home from work. Heck, I'd sometimes get burned out on Slayer after the first two tracks and pop some Beethoven in.
 

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Nice. I just enjoy driving down the road and having someone nagging me telling me to pay attention to the road, forcing me to start picking out songs from the book without looking, then putting my cell phone behind my head and texting people without looking just to be a smartass :p
 

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There are head units that leave the iDevice's native controls active (OEM idevice integration boxes included). Then you can mount the iDevice in a car mount and do library navigation from it way fast that any head unit, just search.

And now with Apple's "Siri", you can call up individual songs from your library, along with anything else basically.
 
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