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We recently did a re-build on my 2006 Mercedes C230 Sport at Kustom Kar Audio in Santa Rosa, Ca. Scott Babson has done all the installation and fabrication on this car.
The purpose of this re-build was to give me the ability to have the maximum tuning capabilities on all the 5.1 channels. The area that has been the most problematic has been the rear surround channels. The Alpine PXI-H990 only allows an active two-way set-up for the rear channels and I am running an active three-way set-up. In the past I have had to combine either of two drivers and run them with the Morel passive crossover, while running the remaining driver active. This method afforded much compromise with regards to the ability to tune the rear channels properly.
The solution was to set-up the Alpine PXI-H990 to output full range rear left and right channel signals and route that to the analog inputs of an Alpine PXA-H800. The H800 was set to a three-way setup without subwoofer. This now gives me full active control of the rear channels. The H800 gives me time correction, active crossover set-up, and parametric equalization. The H990 gives me additional time correction (overall channel) and graphic equalization on both left and right rear channels. This is considerably more tuning control than previously available and has yielded the exact result I was seeking. The five channels, L,C,R,LS,RS are far better timbre matched and time and phase correct.

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Accompanied with this system re-design, I wanted to facilitate some other things that would improve the systems functionality. The first of these was to replace the six cooling fans with super quiet fans. As we know heat is the enemy of audio electronics over time, so I wanted to be able to leave the fans running all the time, even during the most critical listening sessions. The choice was the Noiseblocker NB Blacksilent Pro Ultra Quiet Fan. Each fan has a rated noise level of 10dbA. With the system on and all six fans running at full rpm, they are completely inaudible from the listening position. In fact they are almost inaudible when running the fan and holding it next to your ear. They also come with rubber isolating mounts. This modification was well worth the effort.

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With this re-design we would be adding the H800 and another PDX-F6. That is a total of 6 amplifiers and three processors as well as all the other source components. I wanted to make sure the system would remain noise free after the re-build. We decided to re-wire the systems power, ground, turn-on and all the RCA cables. Because of the number of distributed power and ground connections required, conventional car audio distribution blocks were not an option. We chose to use a MARATHON 1452552 POWER DISTRIBUTION BLOCK 600V 380AMPS. This distribution block has two poles. One for power and one for ground, with an input of 500 MCM to 4 gauges and up to 12 outputs, 2 to 14 gauges. These type of blocks are used in industrial applications and are rated to 380amps and 600volts AC. They are made of aluminum. With this re-wire all service loops were optimized for possible servicing later. With minor modifications to the plastic housing and addition of a clear plastic cover, the block fit perfectly and yielded easy accessibility to all connections.

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We also needed to facilitate the access to the USB connections of both processors. We installed two USB switchers to access each processor from either the front seat listening position during “Ear Tuning” sessions or from the trunk during “RTA Tuning” sessions. I am now able to run my H990, H800, and Goldline tuning software simultaneously on my HP PC. Two USB panel mount connectors were mounted to what used to be the ashtray in the rear of the C230’s center console. We also permanently mounted the 12volt accessory power outlet to allow powering of my PC during tuning. We installed two panel mount USB connectors to the existing cover previously made to cover the Xantrec Truecharge 40 amp 3-stage charger in the trunk’s driver-side quarter panel.

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Another specific challenge of the re-build would be to relocate the PDX-M12 subwoofer amplifier to a location behind the rear passenger seat. The existing amplifier stacking location in the trunk will only allow 5 amplifiers. A location was selected to the driver side of the ski-pass through hole behind the rear seat. The amplifier was oriented such that all adjustment pots and switches would be accessible through the pass through. Scott made a cradle out of 1/8” aluminum and bent it to fit the profile required. The cradle was secured in place and then the amplifier was mounted and wiring connected.

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The H800 was located in the passenger side trunk quarter panel. This is where the Morel passive had resided. This time an ABS mount was created and the H800 secured in place. The trunk liner carpet hides the H800 but since access to it is via USB connection this was not an issue.

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The re-design/re-build was well worth the effort and cost.

Scott Babson's abilities, techniques, and attention to detail are second to none.
 

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Wow! Overkill perhaps, everything but the kitchen sink. The total opposite of k.i.s.s. I applaud you for making all this work, too bad the processors weren't expandable with firmware upgrades. It would be nice to send it back to Alpine and have a custom DSP built.
 

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Thanks for the follow up on the add on. Iasume that this was done before last gtg. I am getting ready to do my install.... Yeah I know it is in but not finished. I am rewiring the speakers and adding fans for the 4 HD jl amps.

Really should talk to someone about building a multi channel processor. As we have talked about in the past, the auto industry has between 10 and 20 speaker systems so there is a market for the product. Plus one they hear your car and ideas I am sure we could get sales going.
 

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Nice work Scott and Gary! So, does this mean there is a possibility to run 2 H800's together? Looks pretty promising!
 

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Nice work Scott and Gary! So, does this mean there is a possibility to run 2 H800's together? Looks pretty promising!
After further thought and looking at the 5.1 configuration offered by the H800, you would get very little benefit from a two processor set-up. You would also be limited to a 2-way front stage. If you used a coaxial or point source speaker for the midrange and high frequencies and utilized a passive crossover for these,you could do a full three way 5.1 system with one processor using set-up #4 on the H800.
 

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Is there fusing on the 7 wires after the distribution block or just at the amps / processors themselves?
 

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Nice job. Did you have to compensate the T/A settings of the rest of the system due to the processing delay added by the H800?
How I have utilized the time correction from the two processors is by using the H800 to do the time correction between the individual 3-way speakers and using the H990 to delay the overall left and right rear channels. The overall rear channels were delayed with respect to the front-stage and the sub. Since the H800 is only doing processing for the rear channels, whatever latency there is in the H800 would just be added into the equation when calculating the rear delays. It wasn't done by math but by ear.:)
 
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