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So i've been redoing my system here lately and i just finished with the subs and sub amp and all, i ordered a pair of HAT L6SEs (got them for less than a clarus set) so they should be here in a few days and now im just trying to figure out what tweeter would pair up best with them. It is a 2 way setup.

The problem im facing is this: The sensitivity of the L6SEs matches more closely with that of the morels, and i'm sure an upgrade to the mt250 from my current mt22 would give me an improvement in every possible way. I love the sound of morel's tweeters. However, i have never heard a scanspeak driver of any sort in any way, but i've heard so much great stuff about all of their products, for home theatre and car audio alike, that its very hard to ignore them. I also appreciate that scanspeak publishes all of their drivers' t/s parameters and fr graphs and what not.

So, having said that, would someone who has heard either tweeter, or both, please share your experience? thanks much, and im also open to other suggestions, but im trying to keep the price under $450ish for the pair.

I'll be powering them with two of the channels of a jl hd 900/5 for now, with active crossovers set on the head unit somewhere between 2.5khz and 4khz,
but i'll soon be upgrading to a pair of zapco dc 750.2s (one for the tweeters and one for the mids). The car is an '07 accord

Thanks again to anyone who cares to help :)
 

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Personally, I went from a Morel MT22 to the Scan tweeter you listed here. For me, The Scan is just as detailed but it has better upper end extension. You know; more air.... I have not had the pleasure of the new mt250. I think I have heard them in another vehicle tho but I can't compare under the same situations. Hope this helps in some way.
 

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Personally, I went from a Morel MT22 to the Scan tweeter you listed here. For me, The Scan is just as detailed but it has better upper end extension. You know; more air.... I have not had the pleasure of the new mt250. I think I have heard them in another vehicle tho but I can't compare under the same situations. Hope this helps in some way.
It does help a good bit. Would you say that the scan speak was a significant improvement? And would you by chance know how much power it handles with higher crossover frequencies or steeper slopes, Like say 3.2khz @ 18 db/octave?
 

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Significant improvement? Define significant. I would say it was noticeable to my ears and I do still own and use them while the mt22 has been sold now. 3.2 kHz is about the sweetest cross I've found for my Scans. I have had them as low as 2 KHz but like them much more above 3kHz, I usually use 24 db slopes tho but I have used 12 db before with no issues. As for power handling, I can say that they get too loud for me potentially off of the 50 Audison watts they are receiving. I wouldn't doubt they can handle 150 responsible watts or more with ease. Honestly tho, I don't see the need for more than about 50 good clean watts for most any tweeter. Its not a midbass after all.;)
 

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I'm not sure what I mean by significant actually lol. I guess I'm asking if you had like any "wow" moments after upgrading, or any regrets after buying them or anything. It seems like you're pretty happy with them though, so that's pretty much what I was going for :) do you think its worth the upgrade? And the reason I'm asking about power handling is that I'm trying to get the front stage to match the volume levels of the subs without having the sub channel on -12 all the time lol :p I guess that's the only thing keeping me from committing to the scans; the sensitivity is just a bit lower than the mt250s, while the power handling is about the same. Oh and do you by chance have any input on listening to the scans slightly off axis?
 

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As for power handling, I have 250 watts going to each of my Scan d3004 tweeters.
 

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Please measure the voltage going to those babies and report back. Don't stop until you reach 250W(40 something V).

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Yes, I fully comprehend what you're saying. The tweeters never see the full 250w. My point really was, don't get hung up on power (when used reasonably/responsibly). ;)
 

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Oh wow.. looks like that might really be the way to go :) may I ask how your crossovers are set for them?
I have run them anywhere between 2500-4000 with 18 and 24db slopes.
 

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I have an 07 Accord too, are you using the stock locations?

1. 4000 is probably too high to cross if you don't have a dedicated midrange. I have been able to cross Seas RT27F (great tweeter btw) and Illusion CuBe tweeters both in the ~2000 - 2500 range with great results. The reality is that most midbasses of that size won't play up to 4000 as clean as the tweeters will play down to 2500.

2. Stock location is great, but its so off axis that it needs a little boost at the very top end. With the DC amps you can add a high shelf somewhere from 12k-16k to help with that.

3. I think the power handling might not be as big a deal. If you ever just listen to your tweeters alone, and then your mids alone, you'll realize that most of the sound comes from the mid. Also, for me a flat system freq response sounds way too bright. I usually tune for a downward slope left to right. So as others have stated above, the tweeter won't be seeing all the power the amp has available.

Anyways, all that being said, both tweeters will probably sound awesome in your setup. Just make sure you invest the time into tuning.
 

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Thanks for the input, I won't be using the stock locations actually, I have the current tweeters in the top of the door (sail panel i think its called) and I was thinking about angling them a bit to get them more on axis. I'll probably have them crossed at about 3.2khz 18 or 24 db/octave. And I'm sure you are correct in saying I'll be very happy with either after proper tuning :)
 

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I'm leaning toward the scans right now because I just keep reading good stuff about them and it seems like power handling won't be an issue with a higher crossover than 2.5k 12db/octave
 

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With how much power?
Most recently? A PPI Phantom 600.2. I believe its rated at 190watts @ 4ohm. They never see that....of course.

I also have a pair of R3004/6020-00 rings coming in this week that will see the same treatment. Currently, I have the a/d/s Concept tweeters running at 3.5k @ 6dp slope.
 

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Hey how do you like those a/d/s? I see them on eBay all the time.
 

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Hey how do you like those a/d/s? I see them on eBay all the time.
Good tweeters that will play fairly low and stay pretty smooth up top. I've had a few sets and still one of my favorite go to tweeters. Build quality is exceptional and a real bargain at the price.
 

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Does anyone know anything about the revelator tweeters? Apparently they're a little higher sensitivity and the fr curve looks similar.. but how do they sound? And why are they more expensive than the illuminators?
 
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