Where's the best location for the tweets? Hope someone who has the same vehicle and can give me some tips.
Need opinions on new set up...
I just got a 09 Camry about three weeks ago and the stock system is just awful. I'm in the middle of getting equipments for my new set up and need your advice/opinion on what I need to get what I want, any suggestions are welcome .
What I have now:
HU: Mcintosh MX4000/MDA4000 combo
Tweet: Rainbow CAL27
Mid: ScanSpeak Illuminator 8ohm (thanks for npdang)
Rear: Rainbow DreamLine
Amp: Mcintosh MC431M
RCA: I'm thinking about getting the Stinger HPM 3 but a lot of you would say expensive cable is meaningless...
Now I want to go active where I can do Time Corr and just to have more ability at tuning but not sure what I need to do that; the BitOne isn't what I'm looking for, would it? I would like to be able to tune it from my dash underneath the HU. Cost I'm looking at would be less than $1200.
My system in the past was running on a 8 gauge power kit but my friend who's a skilled audio mechanic suggested using a 4 gauge instead, any suggestions as far as brands?
Do you think the MC431M would cut it or do I need separate amps for the front and rear?
What I have now:
HU: Mcintosh MX4000/MDA4000 combo
Tweet: Rainbow CAL27
Mid: ScanSpeak Illuminator 8ohm (thanks for npdang)
Rear: Rainbow DreamLine
Amp: Mcintosh MC431M
RCA: I'm thinking about getting the Stinger HPM 3 but a lot of you would say expensive cable is meaningless...
Now I want to go active where I can do Time Corr and just to have more ability at tuning but not sure what I need to do that; the BitOne isn't what I'm looking for, would it? I would like to be able to tune it from my dash underneath the HU. Cost I'm looking at would be less than $1200.
My system in the past was running on a 8 gauge power kit but my friend who's a skilled audio mechanic suggested using a 4 gauge instead, any suggestions as far as brands?
Do you think the MC431M would cut it or do I need separate amps for the front and rear?
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best location for the tweets is to play around with tweeter positioning
connect the tweets on a long piece of speaker wire with double sided tape and try them on the kicks, on the doors, on the dash, and on the a pillars
connect the tweets on a long piece of speaker wire with double sided tape and try them on the kicks, on the doors, on the dash, and on the a pillars
best location for the tweets is to play around with tweeter positioning
connect the tweets on a long piece of speaker wire with double sided tape and try them on the kicks, on the doors, on the dash, and on the a pillars
connect the tweets on a long piece of speaker wire with double sided tape and try them on the kicks, on the doors, on the dash, and on the a pillars
The factory tweeter are both on the dash (way back towards the windshield), wonder if my Cal27 will well at that location. Also, I still don't know what do I need to accomplish my inquiry above; whether I need a DSP, an Equa, the Audison Bit One? Any input would be helpful, cuz the stock system in that car is just plain awful.
Sounds like you're gonna need a processor, such as the BitOne, DSP-6, PXE-H701 (maybe 3sixty.2?), and a channel of amplification for each driver.
First off Nice gear. Second off I hate anyone with better gear than me.
I would highly consider ditching the rear speakers. There are differing opinions but I think it detracts from the front image. I suppose if it was executed well it could add a sense of spaciousness. And it would double the power available for the fronts without getting another amp.
I had an older Camry, which is probably not relevant, but the tweeters did not sound good in the dash. They were better high on the doors where I ended up with them, but still a poor choice in my car. But I would think kicks might be a good choice in a Camry. But as stated it is probably best to experiment with locations prior to finalizing the install plan.
Personally I do not put much stock in cables. Amazon has sale on Kicker cables and accessories (see hot deals section). As long as the cables have good quality tight RCAs I think that is the main thing. And if you have optical out on the HU then you can just run long optical cable to a processor in the trunk and the RCA cables will be pretty short and chance of picking up noise will be reduced.
You did not specify if you plan on a sub. Actually I like that. I put much more stock in getting the front stage right first. Where do you plan on installing the Illuminators? I assume they are the 7’s. They are very deep and the magnet is huge as I recall. Which will make door installation interesting.
I would highly consider ditching the rear speakers. There are differing opinions but I think it detracts from the front image. I suppose if it was executed well it could add a sense of spaciousness. And it would double the power available for the fronts without getting another amp.
I had an older Camry, which is probably not relevant, but the tweeters did not sound good in the dash. They were better high on the doors where I ended up with them, but still a poor choice in my car. But I would think kicks might be a good choice in a Camry. But as stated it is probably best to experiment with locations prior to finalizing the install plan.
Personally I do not put much stock in cables. Amazon has sale on Kicker cables and accessories (see hot deals section). As long as the cables have good quality tight RCAs I think that is the main thing. And if you have optical out on the HU then you can just run long optical cable to a processor in the trunk and the RCA cables will be pretty short and chance of picking up noise will be reduced.
You did not specify if you plan on a sub. Actually I like that. I put much more stock in getting the front stage right first. Where do you plan on installing the Illuminators? I assume they are the 7’s. They are very deep and the magnet is huge as I recall. Which will make door installation interesting.
I don't know if I'll get use to it without rear speakers, but why not give it a shot right? The illuminators are 6.5 and they are pretty deep compare to my Mids from Rainbow Vanadium Plug, those goes into the front doors where the stock 6x9s are (gonna need an adapter for to fit those). I'm getting a sub later on just to complete the set up; got my eyes on the Rainbow 10' and the reviews says it's pretty good. Now, correct me if I'm wrong but the Mcintosh MDA4000 is a DAC already, doesn't that consider as a processor? Do I still need another processor like the Bit1, DSp6 etc?
I ran passive on my last set up and now active is what's in my mind. I want to be able and tune each individual speakers, do the time alignment right from my dash, under the HU. My knowledge is far less than most of you here but I'm learning; by the way, anybody heard of Dreamwork Motors? I read some feedbacks somewhere and they are suppose to be top tier, here's their site: Dreamworks Motorsports - Custom Audio, Wheels and More!
I ran passive on my last set up and now active is what's in my mind. I want to be able and tune each individual speakers, do the time alignment right from my dash, under the HU. My knowledge is far less than most of you here but I'm learning; by the way, anybody heard of Dreamwork Motors? I read some feedbacks somewhere and they are suppose to be top tier, here's their site: Dreamworks Motorsports - Custom Audio, Wheels and More!
DAC and Processor are two different animals, although there is no reason they could not be combined in a single piece.
How 'bout some pics of the interior, so we can gander at your predicament?
Is the '09 like the '07? If so, pay attention to what this guy is doing http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/diyma-build-logs/55534-07-camry-sq-build.html
Is the '09 like the '07? If so, pay attention to what this guy is doing http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/diyma-build-logs/55534-07-camry-sq-build.html
My Ex had an 02 Camry and I tried the various locations using the CAL27 too. I liked 60 degrees off axis about 7" up the A-piller. The stock locations seemed to kill the tweets. Every song sounded like it was on a cassette tape. Anyway my $.02
To clarify.DAC and Processor are two different animals, although there is no reason they could not be combined in a single piece.
The DAC in the stereo is just that, a digital to analog converter. Takes the 1's and 0's and turns them into sound.
You will need a processor to handle the tuning. The processors mentioned will give you the ability to set the crossover points (which you need in an active setup) as well as give you EQ and time alignment.
I've heard that the McIntosh gear is top knotch, but it won't give you the tunability you need.
I hope this helps.
Thank you for all the inputs everyone, did not know that processor and DAC does diff things. Learn something new here all the time. As for as the interior goes, the 09 Camry is identical to the 07 and 08 according to the pics I saw online. That Camry SQ build thread is sick man, the guy spends a lot of time hooking it up, that plus he's experienced which I'm far from. There's a Stinger battery in the list of installed equipment, is it better to switch out the factory battery? What other device you'd recommend to add besides the processor?
Do you have pics of any of the components?
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