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Hey Ya'll!

This is my first build and I could use some advice! I have a 2018 Mercedes Sprinter and the stock system is horrible....ha ha. Here's what I have so far:

Head Unit: PIONEER AVIC-5201NEX
Amp: ARC AUDIO XDi850.5 5-CHANNEL 850W RMS COMPONENT
Front Speakers: Focal Expert ps 165 fx
Rear Speakers: Focal PC 165F
Sub: Rockford Fosgate T1D410 (not purchased yet)

I'm also considering Alpine X-W10D4 10-Inch or 10W6v3-D4 - JL Audio for the Sub. And wondering if about a custom box vs. a JL audio HO110-W6v3. There is only 11 inches clearance under the bench seat, so I wondering if a custom box could fit in there with a 10in sub (either angled or using 1/2in plywood for box).

I've seen some advise against rear speakers, so considering deleting those and selling to get some money for another part of build.

I've already bought everything but the sub, but I'd sell what I got and buy something different if it makes sense.

Thanks in advance for any advice!!
 

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Hi, so you've got 1 Channel at 4 ohms: 225 Watts
1 Channel at 2 ohms: 400 Watts
your amplifier spec
10w6v3: power range: 200-600 watts RMS 82.7db
X-W10D4: Power Range: 650W-900W RMS
Power 10 T1D4: Power Range: 650W-900W 83db
AF GS10D4: RMS Power Handling: 400 W RMS 90db Sensitivity (2.83V / 1M)

Take the subwoofer which is the most suitable for your system.
 

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You should consider AudioFrog. What is your budget?
The audiofrog sub is discontinued. :(

All the subs I suggested are about the same price and all at the top end of what I want to spend. I don't have a sense of whether one is better and they all seem to fit the power spec.

Maybe I could replace the amp with a more powerful two channel and get a second / better amp just for the sub. Also, I could sell the rear speakers and use the $300 for something else (not sure where it would be best spent).

I'm already over budget, but I can move some things around and add a little to finish it off. Still need to pay for installation (I don't think I'm going to DIY the install, but I'm considering it).
 

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ScanSpeak Discovery 26W/4558T 10"
if you want to keep the same amplifier for sub duty.

Take the alpine if you decide to go above 600 watts RMS.
and the JL if you want to stay under 500 watts and classical loudness
both with another amplifier.
you have to find how big of a box you can built: to achieve the required volume of each subwoofer, if you go sealed or ported.
10W6v3-D4 - Car Audio - Subwoofer Drivers - W6v3 - JL Audio
X-W10D4 is 39.7L ported, you can model it with a basic woofer box calculator online.
 

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Hey Ya'll!

This is my first build and I could use some advice! I have a 2018 Mercedes Sprinter and the stock system is horrible....ha ha. Here's what I have so far:

Head Unit: PIONEER AVIC-5201NEX
Amp: ARC AUDIO XDi850.5 5-CHANNEL 850W RMS COMPONENT
Front Speakers: Focal Expert ps 165 fx
Rear Speakers: Focal PC 165F
Sub: Rockford Fosgate T1D410 (not purchased yet)

I'm also considering Alpine X-W10D4 10-Inch or 10W6v3-D4 - JL Audio for the Sub. And wondering if about a custom box vs. a JL audio HO110-W6v3. There is only 11 inches clearance under the bench seat, so I wondering if a custom box could fit in there with a 10in sub (either angled or using 1/2in plywood for box).

I've seen some advise against rear speakers, so considering deleting those and selling to get some money for another part of build.

I've already bought everything but the sub, but I'd sell what I got and buy something different if it makes sense.

Thanks in advance for any advice!!
CSS SDX10 or SDX12.
https://www.css-audio.com/online-store/CSS-SDX10-10-XBL^2-Subwoofer-p110031748
 

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What about Alpine SWS10D4? It looks like it will match my amp better since I only have 400W. As Horuspeed pointed out, the Alpine X-W10D4: Power Range: 650W-900W RMS and Rockford Fosgate Power 10 T1D4: Power Range: 650W-900W 83db , both require more power than I have.


Also, any opinions on whether to keep rear speakers?
 

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i have the audiofrog gb10d4 sealed on 500 watts, it sounds very nice, i would think one would do fine on 400 watts ported if you have the space or even sealed.
 

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i have the audiofrog gb10d4 sealed on 500 watts, it sounds very nice, i would think one would do fine on 400 watts ported if you have the space or even sealed.
i have a audiofrog gb10d4 ported on 600 watts and it is a great combo.

400 watts might be a little light for the gb10d4..but it might work. Its a GREAT sub.
 

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They have several lines. The GB and GS Series are available.
Yep. The GB and GS have very similar specs with many shared key components. Total quality and performance with either.

GB10D4 10″ (250 MM) AUDIOPHILE GRADE AUTOMOTIVE SUBWOOFER
OVERVIEW FEATURES TECHNICAL DETAILS DOWNLOADS
Specifications:
Nominal Impedance: 2 Ω or 8 Ω
RMS Power Handling: 500 W
Peak Power Handling: 1500 W
Frequency Response (-3 dB): 24 Hz – 200 kHz
Sensitivity (2.83 V/1 M): 90 dB (2 Ω configuration)
Recommended Amplifier RMS Power Range: 100 W – 1000 W
Dimensions:


ENCLOSURE PERFORMANCE (SEE OWNER’S MANUAL FOR DETAILS):
Sealed Enclosure Volume: 17 liters (0.6 ft³):



Vented Enclosure Volume and Tuning: 28.3 liters (1 ft³), 33 Hz:



THIELE AND SMALL PARAMETERS:
Revc: 2 Ω or 8 Ω
Levc @1 kHz: 0.57 mH (2 Ω configuration)
Sd: 346.3 cm²
Mmd: 141 g
Mms: 145 g
Cms: 169 µM/N
Vas: 29 liters
Fs: 32 Hz
BL: 10.59 TM (2 Ω configuration)
Qms: 8.03
Qes: 0.54
Qts: 0.5
Xmax (1-way linear): 19 mm (11/16”)
Basket Displacement: 3.15 liters (0.11 ft³)


GS10D4 10″ (250MM) PREMIUM GRADE AUTOMOTIVE SUBWOOFER
Discontinued
OVERVIEW FEATURES TECHNICAL DETAILS DOWNLOADS
Specifications:
Nominal Impedance: 2 Ω or 8 Ω
RMS Power Handling: 400 W RMS
Peak Power Handling: 1200 W
Frequency Response (-3 dB): 24 Hz – 180 Hz
Sensitivity (2.83V / 1M): 90 dB
Recommended Amplifier RMS Power Range: 100 W – 800 W
Dimensions:



Enclosure Performance (see owner’s manual for details):
Sealed Enclosure Volume: 17 liters (0.6 ft³)



Vented Enclosure Volume and Tuning: 28 liters (1 ft³), 33 Hz:



Thiele & Small Parameters:
Revc: 2 Ω or 8 Ω
Levc @1 kHz: 1.02 mH (2 Ω configuration)
Sd: 346.3 cm²
Mmd: 139.3 g
Mms: 143 g
Cms: 154 µM/N
Vas: 26.4 liters
Fs: 34 Hz
BL: 11.24 TM (2 Ω configuration)
Qms: 7.36
Qes: 0.50
Qts: 0.47
Xmax (1-way linear): 15.4 mm (5/8”)
Basket Displacement: 3.09 liters (0.11 ft³)
 

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W6v3. You won't regret.
I have a question about why my system is still shutting off. My ground wire was bad at first, so I ran another wire and grounded it to the chassis. My amp turn on wire wasn't pulling anything at first, so I ran it to the red 12v wire. Radio and amp will set in my driveway and play for hours without any problems. As soon as I start to drive anywhere the system shuts off and the amp goes into protection mode. As soon as I pull back in my driveway the system come back on and resets itself. It still shuts off only when I start driving. Could you help me out by chance please and thank you?
 

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What about Alpine SWS10D4? It looks like it will match my amp better since I only have 400W. As Horuspeed pointed out, the Alpine X-W10D4: Power Range: 650W-900W RMS and Rockford Fosgate Power 10 T1D4: Power Range: 650W-900W 83db , both require more power than I have.


Also, any opinions on whether to keep rear speakers?
I have the Alpine SWS 10 and 12 inch subwoofers. Very good budget sound quality subwoofers that I believe are under appreciated because they are not a lot of money and have stamped steel baskets. I run the 10" in a custom ported 1.2 cube enclosure at 35 Hz on a JBL GTX500, rated 500 watts RMS but does way more on a dyno. Previously that subwoofer was run from an Alpine MRP at 400 watts RMS, which was ok, but when I switched to the JBL amp, there was a noticeable perceived difference in SPL.

Also a great subwoofer for limited depth applications with the xmax of a traditional subwoofer is the Sundown SD3-10. Fantastic sounding subwoofer in a small sealed box and ported alignment as well and the Sundown would do well on a 500 watt amplifier.

Put this amplifier with any one of these two subwoofers and you would have a nice sounding subwoofer and the power to get low. https://www.crutchfield.com/p_108K600/Infinity-Kappa-K600.html
 
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