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I forget who did the write up....but I saw a guy compare his SP to his LX...and he actually preferred the SP. So if he has any idea what he’s talking about....then it’s Z-AP...Z-SP....Z-LX


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Same gentleman who wrote this said that.


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I felt the same way a year ago. Now, not so much. Your loss though, it's a good read.
I’m the other way around. I once thought they made a difference. I guess in today’s lingo I “woke”. I’ve worked on $100,000 HT setups, cables don’t matter. The power supply did if it was older homes.
And these where not just equipment, the entire room was modified. If there was anyplace you would be able to hear differences it was there. Not one single time. Never.
 

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I’m the other way around. I once thought they made a difference. I guess in today’s lingo I “woke”. I’ve worked on $100,000 HT setups, cables don’t matter. The power supply did if it was older homes.
And these where not just equipment, the entire room was modified. If there was anyplace you would be able to hear differences it was there. Not one single time. Never.
I'm trying to win championships and eliminating the weakest links is how it's done. If I'm going to spend $15 - $20k on a system I'll spend a little extra to have nice cables.

If you get a chance check out Matt Hall's interconnect shoot out. It's a good read.

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Yeah I read a few of his shoot outs when I was lurking here. More power to him. IMO it’s redicules. You are in a car. The cable is far from the weakest link. You don’t think these casino execs in Vegas didn’t want the best? They just knew better. You don’t stay rich by wasting money.
 

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So, does anyone know what the price will be for the Z-AP line? Pricing is not on the Zapco website (as pricing never is) and, surprisingly enough, the Z-AP line is not even listed on the Atrend website.
 

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So, does anyone know what the price will be for the Z-AP line? Pricing is not on the Zapco website (as pricing never is) and, surprisingly enough, the Z-AP line is not even listed on the Atrend website.
Pricing as follows
Z-150.2AP - $699.95
Z-150.4AP - $1166.95
Z-150.6AP - $1399.95
Z-400.2AP - $1249.95
 

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That and musical set of cables ? I swear the BS is crazy ... let the product stand on its own merit ...
Hopefully one day you can understand that cables do make a difference. I am not here to argue because I used to be on your side until 10 years ago.

I only stated the cables because I was describing the setup I have used to do the test.
 

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I’m the other way around. I once thought they made a difference. I guess in today’s lingo I “woke”. I’ve worked on $100,000 HT setups, cables don’t matter. The power supply did if it was older homes.
And these where not just equipment, the entire room was modified. If there was anyplace you would be able to hear differences it was there. Not one single time. Never.

sorry, but you are wrong IMO
 
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Hopefully one day you can understand that cables do make a difference. I am not here to argue because I used to be on your side until 10 years ago.

I only stated the cables because I was describing the setup I have used to do the test.
Not here to argue either, we all can share opinions/ facts :) ABX testing will prove otherwise! I am willing to bet you cannot reliably pick your “ musical cables “ more than 6/10 times against the ones you claim are inferior. I am a pro audio engineer, and yes I hear the difference between op amps in pre amps proven by abx testing in a purpose built acoustically controlled environment ( pro studio )

I use Stinger 8000 not because all of the bs marketing on the package, b/c I know what makes a good quality RCA interconnect cable. I am also interested in this amp for my Audiofrog build. Have a great day :beerchug::pleased::)
 

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Hopefully one day you can understand that cables do make a difference. I am not here to argue because I used to be on your side until 10 years ago.

I only stated the cables because I was describing the setup I have used to do the test.
If you buy well made rcas with gold plated connectors it’s all the same... it’s oxygen free copper wire with a gold plated connector...
if you can hear differences it’s because you want to hear differences.
The mind is quite persuasive sometimes.
But hell, if you have hundreds of dollars to drop on rca cables, then f*** it, buy them if it makes you feel better! I mean hear better! ??
 
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