It is a very nice sounding sub. Extremely underrated street-respect-wise. Should be considered in the same breath as the IDMAX ORION H2 MTX 9500, not quite the W7 killer not not too farr off either. Only needs 600 watts to sound great and loves a 1.3 cube sealed enclosure. If you shop around you should be able to find a brand new 12 for around 175shipped