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J-Fkn-C... the input impedance into modern amps is 10k to 200k ohms.
(a 26 gauge would be overkill.)

“skin effect” would be a better argument for one gauge over another... and that would support a smaller wire as well.

but maybe he is right... (it would not be a she to make such a claim)
 
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.... Whatever you do, don't coil up your excess rca cable length while you're using it, inductance goes up pretty quickly in a coiled rca cable, your highs will just go away. But then you are building your own cables to avoid having excess.
Even in twisted pair cables?
or in Coaxials?
 

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Even in twisted pair and coaxial. Recently tested this with DATSv3, accidentally.
What is the mechanism causing this?

I am pretty sure that the inductance formula has the area and number of turns being the main contributors. And in the twisted pair that area gets reduced from the pairing... and then reduced more with the twisting.
 

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I honestly been itching to try them out and I have mono price premium rcas right now cheap and works but I wanna do a comparison test they aren’t crazy expensive but aren’t cheap either
Personally I would not get them, but if you have a hankering then maybe get em.

At least you could do some A/B comparison in the car and house and make out somewhat informative... that would at least be kinda fun.
 

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A twisted pair effectively makes it not work like a coil anymore.

If you had each 1/2 of the pair coiled, and even better around a ferrite core.. then it would become a choke.
As it is... the twisting of the pair, makes the coil area become zero.
 
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I'll have to test it again and post the results, probably Thursday.
The easiest way would be one set of RCAs into a summing (differencing) amp, and the ones being tested into the side of a differencing amp.

Then one gets the difference between the two setups.
 

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I have a bit of Audioquest in the haus and actually sort of knew one of their founders briefly through a roommate decades ago.

In the car I am using Magomi and Neutrik’s ProFi RCAs,… which i get from Markertech. I suspect that all the brands mentioned by Aryton would hard to distinguish from each other in real-life. (but at least they look different)
 

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Here you go. I didn't have a spare 12 foot coax rca so I just tested the Stinger 4000 series 12 foot rca's (twisted pair). The coils were about 3.5 inches in diameter, so about 13 or 14 coils. The first picture is with the cable straight, second is coiled, third is coiled but tested in a way that simulates a balanced signal (clips hooked up to center and ground on one end, cable shorted at the other end). The third picture is the one that shows the benefit of twisted pairs, but that only works with balanced signals. Inductance is shown top right of the T/S specs window.
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Well.. It is sorta hard to argue against facts :cautious:

and very well done on the third test worth the shorting.
(I am not sure i understand it, but i know it is significant.) :)
 
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