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Looking for power and easy to setup. This will be my first active install (not first car audio install) and I want to use a quality amp but the ease of use and tune is HUGE for me as a first-timer.

I was considering the Rockford FosgateT400X4ad but realized I should explore my options and get opinions from those more experienced than myself.

Front stage speakers:
Mid: Audiofrog GB60
Tweeter: Audiofrog GB15

Please suggest a 4 channel amp that might be forgiving to a first time active speaker installer.
 

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What are you using to crossover between the tweeters and mids? DSP? Electronic crossover built-in to amp? Built-in to Head Unit?
 

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What are you using to crossover between the tweeters and mids? DSP? Electronic crossover built-in to amp? Built-in to Head Unit?
Sorry my lack of detail. I will be using a JL Twk88 DSP but would also be interested in amps that are capable of handling crossover.
 

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Make sure to put a capacitor on your tweeter. Even experienced installers do it cause if your amp or dsp puts out anything to low in freq it will fry your tweeter. On amp. I've used the alpine X-A70F. It's decent. I'm using the audiocontrol lc-6.1200 which is also good. It's a 6 channel but I know they make a 4. Amps can be really cheap or really expensive depending on size and quality. I used one of the cheaper rockford amps in my old car and sent it back. I had a noise issue.

I think Andy at audiofrog suggests using a 68uf capacitor. You can get caps at parts express for cheap.
 

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I have that RF amp on my passive two-way front stage. I use a TwK D8. It's extremely clean and efficient. No issues whatsoever. If I ever go active, I'll keep this amp. If I had it to do over, staying in the same price range, I'd buy the same amp again. I've owned nice amps in the past...Alpine PDX, JL XD and RD, Memphis Belle, and earlier RF stuff. In my opinion, these small RF Power amps are the best I've owned. They'll get a little hot to the touch, but that just tells me the little fans are doing their jobs...keeping the heat off of the interior components. I've listened hard, and I can not tell when the fans are running and when they're not. The amps have never gone into protection mode. Set up was a breeze, RF even provides a set-up disk to assist.
 

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Talk to Skizer about a Helix M-Four. If memory serves it will fit your budget and if you have issues he has your back being authorized unlike the gray market sellers on ebay. I know everything's in German the but numbers should be self explanatory.
https://www.audiotec-fischer.de/helix/verstaerker/m-four
 

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Make sure to put a capacitor on your tweeter. Even experienced installers do it cause if your amp or dsp puts out anything to low in freq it will fry your tweeter. On amp. I've used the alpine X-A70F. It's decent. I'm using the audiocontrol lc-6.1200 which is also good. It's a 6 channel but I know they make a 4. Amps can be really cheap or really expensive depending on size and quality. I used one of the cheaper rockford amps in my old car and sent it back. I had a noise issue.

I think Andy at audiofrog suggests using a 68uf capacitor. You can get caps at parts express for cheap.
Great piece of advice. Just learned about this last night as a safeguard for active tweeters. I'll reach out to Audiofrog and verify which capacitor I should be using.
 

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I have that RF amp on my passive two-way front stage. I use a TwK D8. It's extremely clean and efficient. No issues whatsoever. If I ever go active, I'll keep this amp. If I had it to do over, staying in the same price range, I'd buy the same amp again. I've owned nice amps in the past...Alpine PDX, JL XD and RD, Memphis Belle, and earlier RF stuff. In my opinion, these small RF Power amps are the best I've owned. They'll get a little hot to the touch, but that just tells me the little fans are doing their jobs...keeping the heat off of the interior components. I've listened hard, and I can not tell when the fans are running and when they're not. The amps have never gone into protection mode. Set up was a breeze, RF even provides a set-up disk to assist.

Great to hear. I do like the size of this amp and as a personal preference, it would be nice to have the 4 channel and mono be the same. Obviously does not need to be but it makes me feel warm and cozy lol.
 

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Great to hear. I do like the size of this amp and as a personal preference, it would be nice to have the 4 channel and mono be the same. Obviously does not need to be but it makes me feel warm and cozy lol.
I went into my build with no loyalty to any one brand. I wanted the best components, best amps, best sound processing, best subwoofer, and best wiring I could afford. From there I started looking at options for each category. I have five or six major brands represented in my build, and I'm very happy with the results. A brand specific install looks nice, but I valued SQ over looks. That being said, I am by no means saying that you can't build a system using one or two specific brands that sounds amazing..you absolutely can. That just wasn't my goal.

My advice, don't get hung up on brand names and "looks" and focus on quality, and what fits your install and budget. Build the best you can with what you have, and I promise you will not regret it. Once it's built, ensure it's properly tuned. If the tuning is above your skill-grade, hire someone with the expertise. You could spend $10,000 on a complete system very easily, but it'll still sound like crap if it isn't properly tuned.

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Looking for power and easy to setup. This will be my first active install (not first car audio install) and I want to use a quality amp but the ease of use and tune is HUGE for me as a first-timer.



I was considering the Rockford FosgateT400X4ad but realized I should explore my options and get opinions from those more experienced than myself.



Front stage speakers:

Mid: Audiofrog GB60

Tweeter: Audiofrog GB15



Please suggest a 4 channel amp that might be forgiving to a first time active speaker installer.
Have you looked at the JL Audio RD or XD 400/4? $300 and $400 respectively, retail.
 

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Have you looked at the JL Audio RD or XD 400/4? $300 and $400 respectively, retail.

Checked them both out. They seem great... I think. As a bit of a noob I don't know why you would choose the either of the JL's over the rockford. I'm not leaning towards one or the other, I have no idea if one offers better benefits over the other. They all seem pretty good. The JL controls seem really straightforward.
 

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Mosconi AS100.4 or Helix M Four or Audison LRX 5.1k or Hybrid Audio Technologies Unity Series U4A or Tru Technology T-4.65
 

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He has a budget limit of $500. You overshot that a little. An amp doesn’t have to be esoteric to work well, but esoteric amps sure seem to cost a lot.
Yeah, his budget seems to be at that happy spot where you can get a really good amp without really skimping much on quality. Beyond that the law of diminishing returns starts to kick in hard. Can't remember what Skizer quoted me on the M-Four but it was between 4 and 5 bills I think. Hell it might have been under 4 bills. The M-Six has my attention!
 

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He has a budget limit of $500. You overshot that a little. An amp doesn’t have to be esoteric to work well, but esoteric amps sure seem to cost a lot.
Yeah, his budget seems to be at that happy spot where you can get a really good amp without really skimping much on quality. Beyond that the law of diminishing returns starts to kick in hard. Can't remember what Skizer quoted me on the M-Four but it was between 4 and 5 bills I think. Hell it might have been under 4 bills. The M-Six has my attention!
Yep...M-Four was within price range. Others were triple that. LOL

The M-Four can be had for less than $300. But, that’s on the bay, and I’d rather buy from someone like Skizer to ensure my investment was protected.
 

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Yep...M-Four was within price range. Others were triple that. LOL

The M-Four can be had for less than $300. But, that’s on the bay, and I’d rather buy from someone like Skizer to ensure my investment was protected.

Seems like a great amp. I am now researching amps with build in DSP and tuning to simplify things.

I'm considering the following:
JL Audio VX400/4i
Kicker 42iQ500.4
AudioControl D4.800
 

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Yep...M-Four was within price range. Others were triple that. LOL

The M-Four can be had for less than $300. But, that’s on the bay, and I’d rather buy from someone like Skizer to ensure my investment was protected.
My recommendations were all under $500.00
 
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