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Yeah i hate this. I just got flamed on a local car site for saying that im underpowering my sub isnt going to damage it.
basically here is my original post:
i said are you serious? underpowering a sub is only dangerous when you clip the amp which will cause the vc to overheat and damage the sub. my gains are set carefully on my amp so this is not the case. also from what im reading the 500/1 is underrated in power and puts out closer to 750wrms.
NOW a professional car audio company comes in my thread:
are you kidding me?
then the guy in the first post rights
someone else chimes in:
BLAH BLAH BLAH
they keep telling me im gonna ruin my sub by underpowering it. tey all think im stupid because the car audio "professional" on the forum told me i was.
am i wrong???? can someone please give me some respectable references too to bakck my side u?
im more worried about protecting my pride right now than my system:blush:
thanks for your help
basically here is my original post:
someone went on to tell me im "severely underpowering my sub" and its going to ruin it.Jl amps are notorious for being complicated and i am just not impressed at all with my sound system right now. (500/1 and 13w7)
the spl drops off like crazy below 60hz (where this sub is known for playing well).
the amp is a 500/1 btw.
anyone in the area bored and wanna lend me a hand?
i said are you serious? underpowering a sub is only dangerous when you clip the amp which will cause the vc to overheat and damage the sub. my gains are set carefully on my amp so this is not the case. also from what im reading the 500/1 is underrated in power and puts out closer to 750wrms.
NOW a professional car audio company comes in my thread:
INCORRECT SIR
Underpowering a sub can damage the woofer just as easily as over powering it. The voice coil(s) are built/designed to handle a specific power window and you need to achieve that for optimum output. You could also get a "two fer" and damage both
they have power ratings on woofers for a reason, regardless what the google machine will tell you
Now your "closer to" rating of 770 is a PEAK output, which means that amp will not be putting out that power all the time, and that power would be with the gains cranked heavily causing the amp to work harder and possible overheat or damage the internal circuits of the amp
NEVER plan on the "closer to" rating of an amp ... if that amp would blow pushing that woofer your warranty would be void.
The reason the sub wont move is you are under powering it ...
If you want to stop into the store we could take a look at it and make sure everything is wired correctly and tuned accordingly.
BUT I STRONGLY SUGGEST
either going back to the other woofers or upgrading the amp
are you kidding me?
then the guy in the first post rights
and the car audio company responds^ thank you sir. i tried to help, but i guess itl take fin up that monster with that amp before a change is made.
all that aside, i deff agree with ian, upgrade ur amp or go back to the cheapies. good luck on whatever u decide
i deal with stuff like this all day ... sometimes people just need to experiment with stuff to learn, i just hope he doesn't cost himself some coin learning
also the box size for the w7 has some control in this
but like i said, stop by the shop if you want and we will figure it out
someone else chimes in:
he has a 13 w7,i belive there supposed to be ran with 1000wrms 2000 max.your amp is too small for the 13w7.you need a bigger amp to push that beast.ive had all jlaudio stuff for years.its some of the greatest on the market.by only runn 500 watts through the sub your seriously depriving it for power.even if its a jl amp.this is the sole reason i belive that jl made the 1000/1 amp.for this sub,ive seen 2,1000 watt jl amps hooked up to a 13w7 and not blow it.ian is exactly right about the underpowering of the sub could cause it to be worn down more quickly.i would say go to the jl website and check it out for yourself as in the power charts.the jl amp is very strong.for some reason i managed to blow 2 brand new jl 10w3v3s last year with my 500/1 jl amp.the store that i got them from was hesitant to give me my money back even tho it wasnt even a week and i made it very clear to the salesman/owner that i wanted a set of subs that could hold the power of the amp.sp i went to speed of sound and got hooked up and paid a little over a 100 bucks and i went from 10s to 12s.needless to say i hit about 143db in my old golf with a 500/1 and 2 12w3v3s.for those who dont know thats about the equivelent to a 13inchw7. i really think there are a few options here.1 keep the 500/1 sell the 13w7 and get a 12 or 15 w6 or get 2 12 w3v3s.2,sell the amp and get a bigger amp but thats gonna cost more money. if you do some smart shopping you should be able to get rid of the 13w7 and get 2 12'sw3v3s for no extra money spent.you would get about the same power but you will get better sound b/c there rms falls right inline with the amp rating.i know its alot of jibberjabber but this should make some sence.
also i may not be a mecep certified installer but i did just stay at a holiday inn!
BLAH BLAH BLAH
they keep telling me im gonna ruin my sub by underpowering it. tey all think im stupid because the car audio "professional" on the forum told me i was.
am i wrong???? can someone please give me some respectable references too to bakck my side u?
im more worried about protecting my pride right now than my system:blush:
thanks for your help