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Bnlcmbcar said:

Don’t mean to sidetrack the CLD dialogue

But has anyone figured out the Velcro Don was selling. I tried the 3m Dual Lock product (both 250/400 and 400/400 versions) but it doesn’t come close to the strength of the Velcro from SDS.

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I was trying to figure out the same thing. Here is a older screenshot saying what type of Velcro works.

I found the same stuff here- https://www.itapestore.com/velcrotapehookloopacrylicadhesive.aspx

I ordered it, but haven't tried it yet

I found this forum and thread after going to SDS this weekend to place an order for a personal project. I've never ordered any of this type of product before, so unfortunately I don't have any experience for comparison. But, I like doing projects right the first time, regardless of cost, so SDS seemed like the right place to go. I'll be pausing my project until a general consensus is found regarding comparable alternatives. It seems to me that some of the products are easily replaced (MLV/CCF/HMF) but the CLD tiles and velcro were the best available on the net.

I'm hoping this thread can stay on topic and focused on finding comparable alternatives to SDS so we can press on with our projects. On that note, perhaps this for the velcro:
High-Heat Acrylic 3M Brand Hook & Loop (PSA)

Unfortunately I have nothing for comparison so there's no point in me purchasing it. If anybody is willing to sell me a few pieces of velcro and/or 1 CLD tile so I can have something for comparison, please PM me and I'll start purchasing possible alternatives for testing.

Thanks

I saved the materials lists for the Camry and Avalon from the SDS site before it went down. It doesn't look like this is available on the archive.org backup. Hopefully someone will find it useful

Toyota Camry Sedan 2011-2017
Generation: XV50
Measured Year: 2012




This materials list is an estimate based on measurements provided by a customer or customers. Quantities should be considered what I expect to need for the project instead of what I know will be needed. This turns out to be very close in almost every case but is absolutely not guaranteed! "Add to Cart" for total, shipping and purchase.

Product Distribution by Area:

Front Doors (each):
5.5 CLD Tiles, outer skin
1 CLD Tile, cut into smaller pieces, inner skin
1 CLD Tile, cut into smaller pieces, trim panel
Extruded Butyl Rope
7.1 ft² MLV
10 ft² 1/8" CCF
2.5 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides

Rear Doors (each):
4 CLD Tiles, outer skin
1 CLD Tile, cut into smaller pieces, inner skin
1 CLD Tile, cut into smaller pieces, trim panel
Extruded Butyl Rope
6.9 ft² MLV
10 ft² 1/8" CCF
2.5 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides

Kick Panels (each):
.5 CLD Tiles
.7 ft² MLV
.7 ft² 1/8" CCF
1 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides

Floor:
4 CLD Tiles (assumes significant coverage from the factory)
45.4 ft² MLV
60.4 ft² 1/8" CCF (Extra is to double up in the bot
2 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides

Back Seat Platform / Riser:
2 CLD Tiles (assumes significant coverage from the factory)
9.4 ft² MLV
9.4 ft² 1/8" CCF
3 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides

Roof (with sunroof):
11 CLD Tiles
17.6 ft² 3/4" Hydrophobic Melamine Foam

Rear Deck:
5 CLD Tiles
8 ft² 1/8" CCF

C-Pillars (each):
2 CLD Tiles
3.7 ft² 3/4" Hydrophobic Melamine Foam

* Be very careful if there are airbags in the C-Pillars. The safest course in that case is to do nothing. *

Trunk Floor / Spare Tire Well:
4 CLD Tiles, horizontal surfaces (assumes significant coverage from the factory)
2 CLD Tiles, sides of spare well (assumes significant coverage from the factory)
30.7 ft² MLV
30.7 ft² 1/8" CCF
6 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides

Trunk Lid:
3 CLD Tiles

Quarter Panels (each):
4 CLD Tiles
7.2 ft² MLV
7.2 ft² 1/8" CCF
3 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides

Trunk Back Wall:
2 CLD Tiles
4.4 ft² MLV
4.4 ft² 1/8" CCF
2 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides

Totals:
73 CLD Tiles
1 roll Extruded Butyl Rope
133.7 ft² MLV
168.7 ft² 1/8" CCF
25 ft² 3/4" Hydrophobic Melamine Foam
31 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides
1 32 oz can HH-66 Vinyl Contact Cement

Toyota Avalon Sedan 2013-

Generation: 4th
Measured Year: 2014
Net Weight Added to Vehicle in lbs.: 155


This materials list is an estimate based on measurements provided by a customer or customers. Quantities should be considered what I expect to need for the project instead of what I know will be needed. This turns out to be very close in almost every case but is absolutely not guaranteed! "Add to Cart" for total, shipping and purchase.


Product Distribution by Area:


Front Doors (each):
5 CLD Tiles™, outer skin
1 CLD Tile™, cut into smaller pieces, inner skin
1 CLD Tile™, cut into smaller pieces, trim panel
Extruded Butyl Rope
7.2 ft² MLV
10 ft² 1/8" CCF
2.5 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides


Rear Doors (each):
4 CLD Tiles™, outer skin
1 CLD Tile™, cut into smaller pieces, inner skin
1 CLD Tile™, cut into smaller pieces, trim panel
Extruded Butyl Rope
6.2 ft² MLV
9 ft² 1/8" CCF
2.5 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides
6.2 ft² MLV
9 ft² 1/8" CCF
2.5 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides


Kick Panels (each):
* In most cases you'll want these to be covered with MLV and CCF from the floor.
.5 CLD Tiles™
.8 ft² MLV
.8 ft² 1/8" CCF
1 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides

Floor:
8 CLD Tiles™ (assumes significant coverage from the factory)
53.6 ft² MLV
68 ft² 1/8" CCF (extra is to double up in the bottoms of the foot wells)
2 CLD Tiles™

Back Seat Platform / Riser:
2 CLD Tiles™ (assumes significant coverage from the factory)
9.4 ft² MLV
9.4 ft² 1/8" CCF
3 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides

Roof (with sunroof):
13 CLD Tiles™
21.4 ft² 3/4" Hydrophobic Melamine Foam

Rear Deck:
6 CLD Tiles™
9 ft² 1/8" CCF

C-Pillars (each):
.5 CLD Tiles™
1 ft² 3/4" Hydrophobic Melamine Foam

Be very careful if there are airbags in the C-Pillars. The safest course in that case is to do nothing.

Trunk Floor / Spare Tire Well:
4 CLD Tiles™, horizontal surfaces (assumes significant coverage from the factory)
1 CLD Tiles™, sides of spare well (assumes significant coverage from the factory)
18.4 ft² MLV
18.4 ft² 1/8" CCF
4 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides

Trunk Lid:
6 CLD Tiles™

Quarter Panels (each):
4 CLD Tiles™
6.2 ft² MLV
6.2 ft² 1/8" CCF
3 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides

Trunk Back Wall:
5.4 ft² MLV
5.4 ft² 1/8" CCF
2 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides

Totals:
76 CLD Tiles™
1 roll Extruded Butyl Rope
127.6 ft² MLV
162.2 ft² 1/8" CCF
23.4 ft² 3/4" Hydrophobic Melamine Foam
29 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides
1 32 oz can HH-66 Vinyl Contact Cement