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I have a 2012 Mustang GT.
I have the following materials
Noico 80mil sound deadener 72ft sq
40ft sq of 1 lb mlv and ccf
Raamat BXT 2 (6 pieces)
Raamat Ensolite IUO 1 yd sq
I just wanted to make sure Im headed in the right direction on sound deadening the vehicle.
Doors (roughly 2’ by 4’)
Sound deadening on the inner and outer door skin. The mlv/ ccf before the door panel.
The doors have isolated pockets for the midbass speakers.(where the
Floor/ Rear deck and Roof ?
Sound deadener, then mlv/ccf

i think I may need some additional supplies to finish up.
I will be running a 3 way front with
Hybrid Audio Legatia L1v2 tweets (custom pods)
Hybrid Audio Legatia L4 mids
Stereo Integrity TM65 mounted on alum rings
Dayton dsp off factory radio
Not sure of rest yet (ie: subs, amps)
 

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With raammat and noico, I'm hoping you live in an area that doesn't get too hot

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I live in GA
I havent installed anything yet
What products would you recommend ?
Looking for something to help with the louder exhaust also.
My doors are roughly 2’ h and 4’ long
 

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I have had Raammat in several vehicles in humid 105 degree summers and never had any issues with it. It is good stuff. I would use the Raammat bxt on the front doors, with the ensolite over the top of it. The noice 80mil on the floor and firewall and trunk. I would ditch the mlc and ccf and instead buy more ensolite so you can put it over all of the mat. The mlc doesnt do much good unless you cover everything and will weigh your car down and the ccf is way thicker than you need (the ensolite prevents panel to panel vibration plenty). Also get some more Raammat to put on the outer door skins if you can even reach them.
 

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I have had Raammat in several vehicles in humid 105 degree summers and never had any issues with it. It is good stuff. I would use the Raammat bxt on the front doors, with the ensolite over the top of it. The noice 80mil on the floor and firewall and trunk. I would ditch the mlc and ccf and instead buy more ensolite so you can put it over all of the mat. Also get some more Raammat to put on the outer door skins if you can even reach them.
Heres two pics from members here who used raammat in their cars... the stuff melts in higher temps. The noico does as well, and is also partially asphalt based. Had it in my personal car at one point. had to clean the remaining goop off with a paint scraper lol





Also, the ensolite is too thin/too stiff to really act as a proper decoupler, and gets hard and crusty over time. Not trying to be the negative salesman type, but in my opinion its better to say something in these situations than to stay quiet. If OP really needs to save money, just get dynamat extreme. It does a decent job at resonance control and will not melt
 

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Wondering if those pics were the original raammat. I have only used the bxt2 and have never had that happen. Never experienced hard and crusty ensolite either. Twice i have uninstalled speakers, subs etc from vehicles i have owned before i sold them and the bxt2 and ensolite was fine after 2 to 3 years of being in the cars (105 and humid summers, in the teens in the winter). Just saying he will be fine putting it in. The noice however i have never used as that stuff is too cheap for me lol. But if he already bought it...the i guess use it or sell it.
 

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I am sure I had the original Raammat and it made a mess of my doors and my trunk. Don't care which version, they burned me and I will never use them again. My wife and I both lost nice pants to the stuff leaking out the weep holes of my door. In this case, it cost me quite a bit more to go with a "cheaper" product. Since SDS is no longer in business, I bought some Resonix to use when I finally open up my doors again.
 

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I can show you pics where it fell on several amps of mine. Thought it destroyed them. However Goof-off and elbow grease worked wonders. It did however mark up the carpet and ruin RCA's. I didn't have a headliner in the vehicle but as the manufacturer said that should have held kept the roof cooler. They were good and offered to pay for my amp repair but I couldn't ever use or recommend their stuff again.

After that failure I started to research deadening. Learned about why/why not full coverage, the proper steps, and why CLD/CCF works. It's definitely not just about "staying stuck". Not to mention after reading scientific test results that shows those type of products ineptitude. I would admit it was likely their first stuff as it was 10+ year ago but who cares. You only let a jack stand fail once.
 

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Bias much?



I kid, I kid.

I know you developed your product to be the best performing deadener, since SDS closed shop, and while testing has yet to show such, I'm sure it'll be one of the top performers on the market.
I personally already have the results to back it. Just never released it. Didn't want to be "that" guy, but now I dont really care lol

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What materials would be suggested for the roof ?
A quality cld, and an absorption layer. Something like melamine, or regular acoustic foam

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I can show you pics where it fell on several amps of mine. Thought it destroyed them. However Goof-off and elbow grease worked wonders. It did however mark up the carpet and ruin RCA's. I didn't have a headliner in the vehicle but as the manufacturer said that should have held kept the roof cooler. They were good and offered to pay for my amp repair but I couldn't ever use or recommend their stuff again.

After that failure I started to research deadening. Learned about why/why not full coverage, the proper steps, and why CLD/CCF works. It's definitely not just about "staying stuck". Not to mention after reading scientific test results that shows those type of products ineptitude. I would admit it was likely their first stuff as it was 10+ year ago but who cares. You only let a jack stand fail once.
I can show you pics of my car now that i am pulling out some melted parts express deadener before i install some ResoNix that Nick sent me. Its a mess once you open your doors 2 years later.
 

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CLD tiles or rectangles ?
Hydrophobic melamine foam ?
Foam thickness ?
Squares. Rectangles aren't as good. Foam thickness, as thick as you can fit

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Heres two pics from members here who used raammat in their cars... the stuff melts in higher temps. The noico does as well, and is also partially asphalt based. Had it in my personal car at one point. had to clean the remaining goop off with a paint scraper lol
For what it's worth, I've confirmed with the Noico manufacturer that their product does not contain ANY asphalt whatsoever.

Also, for what it's worth, I've had Noico installed on my other car for years now - including the roof - and have never had any issues with it whatsoever.

Noico also has thousands of end-users reviews and customers are VERY happy with the product. Is it the absolute best product out there? Of course not. Is it a good product for a great price? Yes, it is. Again, the customer satisfaction level speaks volumes.
 

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For what it's worth, I've confirmed with the Noico manufacturer that their product does not contain ANY asphalt whatsoever.

Also, for what it's worth, I've had Noico installed on my other car for years now - including the roof - and have never had any issues with it whatsoever.

Noico also has thousands of end-users reviews and customers are VERY happy with the product. Is it the absolute best product out there? Of course not. Is it a good product for a great price? Yes, it is. Again, the customer satisfaction level speaks volumes.
And I've seen it tested independently and it DOES have asphalt as a filler in it. You can even smell it.. as far as good reviews, its always people who have no frame of reference. Its kinda like how your average persons thinks kickers and w7s are the best subs ever made. Its all about frame of reference. Hell, I used to think peel and seal was great! If you go back to my posts from when I first joined you can probably find evidence of that. If anyone who has an Amazon brand deadener and thinks its great but has no other frame of reference, let me know and I'll send you a sample.

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