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I'm not great on the tech side of car audio. What I do know is after getting my first "system" (ha), I neeeeed aftermarket car audio.

2 weeks ago my 95 civic was stolen...... BUT I am getting an 07 camry (a deal I couldn't pass up)

My dilemma: what do i put in my camry? I would like to keep it around 1000 bucks and I could go up to about 1500. I'm looking to upgrade the factory speakers and slap in a sub to help fill out the audio.

I have been getting all sorts of recommendations, the best yet, visit diymobileaudio.com

I was thinkin 6.5 components up front and 2-way 6x9 in back and 12 inch sub.

I'm leaning toward the memphis bell 5 channel 1300 watt for my amp, but i'm open for any suggestions.

thanks in advance
 

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I'm not great on the tech side of car audio. What I do know is after getting my first "system" (ha), I neeeeed aftermarket car audio.

2 weeks ago my 95 civic was stolen...... BUT I am getting an 07 camry (a deal I couldn't pass up)

My dilemma: what do i put in my camry? I would like to keep it around 1000 bucks and I could go up to about 1500. I'm looking to upgrade the factory speakers and slap in a sub to help fill out the audio.

I have been getting all sorts of recommendations, the best yet, visit diymobileaudio.com

I was thinkin 6.5 components up front and 2-way 6x9 in back and 12 inch sub.

I'm leaning toward the memphis bell 5 channel 1300 watt for my amp, but i'm open for any suggestions.

thanks in advance
Welcome to the forum. It may be your lucky day. I have a 2008 Camry that I'm collecting equipment for right now, and as luck would have it, I am doing a build on $500 budget for equipment, but will likely push to $1000 including install materials (kits, wiring, sound deadening, etc.)

Are you planning on installing yourself? That will save you some money, and I'm going by that assumption.

For $1000, budget something along these lines:

Head unit: $200 (you could also use your stock deck and get some kind of OE adapter like an RF 3Sixty)
Amplifier: $300 (don't know how much that Memphis you're looking at costs)
Components (6.5 up front, if you must do rear fill 6.5 coaxial): $300 (Ratio, I would say, $250 for the components, $50 for the coaxials, and tune the rears down low).
Subwoofer: $200

Obviously, what you save in one category you can use elsewhere.

You'll need an install kit and harness. I want to say that this is going to be about $60. You'll need a wiring kit and RCA cable to run your amplifier; this will vary a bit depending on your power handling needs, but let's say a 4-gauge kit will do, and that'll be about $50. You'll need a box for your subwoofer, depending on what size and if you build it yourself, let's say $50. You will also need adapters for the speakers to mount, you can buy these or make these, if you buy it may be as much as $40. Budget the rest for sound deadening or overrun for the equipment.

If you stay vigilant on the classifieds, and depending how you feel about buying on eBay, you can have a pretty good system.
 

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Welcome to the forum. It may be your lucky day. I have a 2008 Camry that I'm collecting equipment for right now, and as luck would have it, I am doing a build on $500 budget for equipment, but will likely push to $1000 including install materials (kits, wiring, sound deadening, etc.)

Are you planning on installing yourself? That will save you some money, and I'm going by that assumption.

For $1000, budget something along these lines:

Head unit: $200 (you could also use your stock deck and get some kind of OE adapter like an RF 3Sixty)
Amplifier: $300 (don't know how much that Memphis you're looking at costs)
Components (6.5 up front, if you must do rear fill 6.5 coaxial): $300 (Ratio, I would say, $250 for the components, $50 for the coaxials, and tune the rears down low).
Subwoofer: $200

Obviously, what you save in one category you can use elsewhere.

You'll need an install kit and harness. I want to say that this is going to be about $60. You'll need a wiring kit and RCA cable to run your amplifier; this will vary a bit depending on your power handling needs, but let's say a 4-gauge kit will do, and that'll be about $50. You'll need a box for your subwoofer, depending on what size and if you build it yourself, let's say $50. You will also need adapters for the speakers to mount, you can buy these or make these, if you buy it may be as much as $40. Budget the rest for sound deadening or overrun for the equipment.

If you stay vigilant on the classifieds, and depending how you feel about buying on eBay, you can have a pretty good system.
thanks for the advice. do you have any brands that you would recommend? or any other camry forums where they would be talking about audio for the camry?
 

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thanks for the advice. do you have any brands that you would recommend? or any other camry forums where they would be talking about audio for the camry?
Of course, you are on one of the best sites for recommendations and product selection. If you search the build log forum, there are a couple of Camry builds of the current generation there are pretty well documented. I go to Toyota Nation for specific tips about the Camry, but audio wise, really you don't get a lot better than DIYMA.

I would suggest checking out the various forums here for product selection -- there's a "hot deal" Soundstream amp, the RUB5.800 which is available for $185 or so, that puts out a rated 70 watts to four channels and 200 watts to the sub. Again, I don't know how much power you're accustomed to, but it's a pretty decent buy, I would say. That's just one suggestion -- there's a lot of other products out there. That's some of the big strengths of DIYMA - product review, finding products that people like, "hot deals," items for sale from other members.

While I could give you opinions, they are mine and not yours -- you may listen to different music, or want a different sound. There's a TON of technical data here but I would say to go out to different stores and listen to cars and installs. I could say that you'll want to get a feel for different speakers with different amplification, and how they sound playing music that you like. I've learned a lot by reading different articles here, and gained a lot of technical knowledge, but at the end of the day I have picked equipment that I think works well for me, and will produce the sound that I want. Poke around here a bit, there's a lot to learn. I think you might read just DIYMA threads for a month and still have more to find.
 

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I would suggest checking out the various forums here for product selection -- there's a "hot deal" Soundstream amp, the RUB5.800 which is available for $185 or so, that puts out a rated 70 watts to four channels and 200 watts to the sub. Again, I don't know how much power you're accustomed to, but it's a pretty decent buy, I would say. That's just one suggestion -- there's a lot of other products out there. That's some of the big strengths of DIYMA - product review, finding products that people like, "hot deals," items for sale from other members.
You will find most here do not like/recomend rear speakers. I just walk out side and look at a 07 camry(i sell cars for a living) and it has nice door locations to put a 6.5" woofer in and you could do a tweeter in three or four different places in that car. I would recomend buying a pair of 6.5 woofers such as Peerless, Dayton, or used car audio off the board here for $75 to $150. A nice pair of tweeters can be had for around the same price new or used. You could do a 5 channel amp as someone mention but i would get a 4 channel amp that had a crossover built in and do fronts active. And a class D amp for subs that does not draw much power. Speaking of Subs thats kind of a personal choice while a single 10" SQ sub will be more than enough for me, you might want two 15". More details about what type of music and how loud will help answer that question.
 

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You will find most here do not like/recomend rear speakers. I just walk out side and look at a 07 camry(i sell cars for a living) and it has nice door locations to put a 6.5" woofer in and you could do a tweeter in three or four different places in that car. I would recomend buying a pair of 6.5 woofers such as Peerless, Dayton, or used car audio off the board here for $75 to $150. A nice pair of tweeters can be had for around the same price new or used. You could do a 5 channel amp as someone mention but i would get a 4 channel amp that had a crossover built in and do fronts active. And a class D amp for subs that does not draw much power. Speaking of Subs thats kind of a personal choice while a single 10" SQ sub will be more than enough for me, you might want two 15". More details about what type of music and how loud will help answer that question.
Right, that's what I said "if you must" do rear fill. I'm not a fan but I'll be putting them in as a favor to my kids, and will likely attenuate the heck of them when I'm in the car alone. It's to the OP's taste on what he wants. It's what he indicated, and I suggested that he go and do some auditioning before making his decision.

I was big on the single 10" being good enough, but now that I'm getting older, I'm leaning towards a 12" for additional output and cone area. Could be that my hearing isn't so great anymore. Again, to each their own.

I've done the 5-channel amp for simplicity, and also multiple amps for flexibility, so it's really up to the OP and his level of comfort of installation. If he wants to go full active, there's several DIY drivers he could mix/match for less than $200 on his front stage.
 

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I agree with the comment about rear fill. I would spend $1000 in the following manner:

Head unit: active capable with clean outs - Alpine 9886/9887, Pioneer 800/880PRS. These can be had used for $250 or so. A little more for the Pioneer maybe. Search the forums for more info on these units. If you prefer to keep the stock head unit, perhaps a RF3sixty, although this could cost a little more than that. there is a 3sixty.2 on ebay for $300 buy it now price.

Amp: Stick with the Soundstream - sounds like a great deal for less than $200!!!

Front stage: go to Parts-Express (parts-express.com) or Madisound and look at the raw driver selections. The Dayton RS180-4 is a a popular mid-bass driver and would work well with the specs of your amp. On Madisound the SB29 tweeter gets great reviews. There are several different tweeters you can go with depending on the size you need, but I would say you should be out of there for no more than $150-175 for a pretty nice front stage. There are LOTS of options either way if you decide to spend a little more, or want to spend a little less...

Sub: The PG RSd 12d (4DVC) sub seems gets good reviews. It can be had for about $60 and fall within the specs of your amp (340w). With a pre-fab enclosure, you would get this for no more than $95 shipped.

Wiring/dash kit: amp wiring kit, dash kit (if needed) RCA's, speaker wire, etc should run no more than $150 and that is being generous.

Sound deadning: RAAM has a special right now on BXTII. I am going to try it without the Ensolite. This is about $115 shipped.

This totals about $1020 with the $300 budget for the head unit, and IMHO would provide good results. If you do not mind used speakers and amp, then you can likely get better product for the same budget if you take your time...
 

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I agree with the comment about rear fill. I would spend $1000 in the following manner:

Head unit: active capable with clean outs - Alpine 9886/9887, Pioneer 800/880PRS. These can be had used for $250 or so. A little more for the Pioneer maybe. Search the forums for more info on these units. If you prefer to keep the stock head unit, perhaps a RF3sixty, although this could cost a little more than that. there is a 3sixty.2 on ebay for $300 buy it now price.

Amp: Stick with the Soundstream - sounds like a great deal for less than $200!!!

Front stage: go to Parts-Express (parts-express.com) or Madisound and look at the raw driver selections. The Dayton RS180-4 is a a popular mid-bass driver and would work well with the specs of your amp. On Madisound the SB29 tweeter gets great reviews. There are several different tweeters you can go with depending on the size you need, but I would say you should be out of there for no more than $150-175 for a pretty nice front stage. There are LOTS of options either way if you decide to spend a little more, or want to spend a little less...

Sub: The PG RSd 12d (4DVC) sub seems gets good reviews. It can be had for about $60 and fall within the specs of your amp (340w). With a pre-fab enclosure, you would get this for no more than $95 shipped.

Wiring/dash kit: amp wiring kit, dash kit (if needed) RCA's, speaker wire, etc should run no more than $150 and that is being generous.

Sound deadning: RAAM has a special right now on BXTII. I am going to try it without the Ensolite. This is about $115 shipped.

This totals about $1020 with the $300 budget for the head unit, and IMHO would provide good results. If you do not mind used speakers and amp, then you can likely get better product for the same budget if you take your time...
The Pioneer 800 seems to still be going for about 300 (or more) for a good one. He can probably get the 9887 for ~$250 or less (check out hot deals).

He's definitely going to need a dash kit/harness, and adapter mount/baffle for the speakers (thanks, Toyota), which is why my estimate may be a bit more than yours for the accessories. But with your estimates he can still come in under $1000 given a little bit of searching.

Also agree on the RAAM deal, can also find deals every now and again on Second Skin.
 

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you should just keep the stock h/u and get some hi-low converters and run a pdx5 and meniscus audio has a polk 12 on close out for 57 bux!
 

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-Stock head unit

-JBL MS-8 with 20 watt x 8 of internal amplification for all the speakers except the sub.

-A great quality coax in the factory dash location. You might have a hard time fitting fitting a 3.5" coax in the camry dash location though. I would run a 2" Peerless 4 ohm full range on a solid shaped baffle that isolates the front and rear waves. Run it from 500Hz-1000Hz on up and it will sound awesome, play very loud from 20 watts, and fit under the OEM grill even with the baffle plate. No need for a tweeter with this option since the on axis high frequency is there and it will reflect of the glass into the listening area. You might have to angle mount it a little to focus the reflected on axis energy
toward your vertical position, maybe not though.

-A good quality 6x9" in the doors acting as midbass only something like a JBL GTO 2 way). I'd talk to Andy W. on here from JBL about this one. See if you should disconnect the passive and built in tweeter so the the 6x9" acts as a completely active midbass. Ask to see is the nominal impedance of the woofer without those components is within the accepted range for an amp (ie not too low).

-A better quality 6x9 in the rear acting as rear speakers that you can fade to the front when no in use.

-A great 12" sub (JBL GTO) in an GREAT! enclosure that fires through the rear seat arm rest and is closed off from the trunk by its own mounting baffle. That way you keep the trunk noise out of the cabin as well as not having the 6x9" be affect by the bass pressure. Don't seal off the trunk toooo much though since it still needs to vent the cabin with the trunk vents. A sub enclosure with a side to side baffle should isolate the bass in the cabin without sealing it off to much. This procedure will also keep the bass out of the trunk and prevent it from coming back into the cabin out of phase and canceling some of the bass output.

-A 300-500 watt class D amp for the sub. You should be able to find an excellent older model that is that BNIB for VERY cheap.

-And most important!, proper installation of the drivers and sound treatment where needed. This is VERY important on the doors. If done correctly, the 20 watts from the MS-8 will be plenty.

-And as a bonus. You'll have unused output from the MS-8 that can be used for a LOGIC 7 center speaker setup in the future. You could probably fit a nice 4" or 5 1/4" coax on a fiberglass baffle and/or enclosure that is molded to the same shape as that plastic piece. Cover it with grill cloth to look just like stock profile and you'll have one of the best center channels positions of any car.

All this should be below $1500 with maybe even the center. And we're talking about a world class balance system here.
 

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-A good quality 6x9" in the doors acting as midbass only something like a JBL GTO 2 way). I'd talk to Andy W. on here from JBL about this one. See if you should disconnect the passive and built in tweeter so the the 6x9" acts as a completely active midbass. Ask to see is the nominal impedance of the woofer without those components is within the accepted range for an amp (ie not too low).
Why use a coaxial if you just need the midbass driver?
 

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Why use a coaxial if you just need the midbass driver?
That car comes with 6x9" speakers in the front doors. I didn't want to suggest cutting up the door to fit an 8", which might not fire that well through the less then 6x9" offset door panel grill. The only quality 6x9" midbass I know of is from Image Dynamics, which is very expensive. So that only left one of the many 6x9" coax. Which also are like to play higher, giving more flexibility to use a smaller mid (that fits) on the dash that does not play under ~800-1000Hz.
 

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That car comes with 6x9" speakers in the front doors. I didn't want to suggest cutting up the door to fit an 8", which might not fire that well through the less then 6x9" offset door panel grill. The only quality 6x9" midbass I know of is from Image Dynamics, which is very expensive. So that only left one of the many 6x9" coax. Which also are like to play higher, giving more flexibility to use a smaller mid (that fits) on the dash that does not play under ~800-1000Hz.
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dont need rear speakers for sq..........

if you are keen to get a good value sq system you will realy have to go active with diy drivers.....

how about this

the amazing HDS tweeter https://www.madisound.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=1744
with seas er18rnx woofers https://www.madisound.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=8181

as for head unit 9887 is cheap and will do 3way
CDA-9887 - Alpine CD/MP3/WMA/AAC In-Dash Receiver

with a 5ch amp like the boston GT-50 - Boston Acoustics 5 Ch. 510 Watt Amplifier

and for a subwoofer IDQ12V2.D4 - Image Dynamics 12" IDQ Dual 4 Ohm Subwoofer

this will sound fantastic and come in at around 1100 plus install....
 
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