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Sundown moves so much product that I’m sure they don’t care to take the time to sort out the “bad” from the “cosmetic flaw” ones. That requires more manpower, more time, more money, etc. You can already purchase B stock from them. It’s just another avenue to get their products if you want to save money (odds are in your favor)
 

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Not sure I'm following here. So they don't have the time to separate the bad from the cosmetic but at the same time they sell B stock now so it shouldn't be a problem (so clearly they are testing stuff and know what's wrong).

Also, anyone who has a warranty department tests equipment that comes in under warranty to make sure there is no fault found and if it is covered under warranty. For woofers that's pretty easy. You test for continuity, you test for a voice coil unwinding, stuff making weird noises, etc.

So a blown woofer is being tested, found to be blown then being sold as "maybe it's blown, maybe it's not blown"? That seems very odd.

And Harman (JBL/Infinity/Harman Kardon) sells refurbished items. So volume doesn't have much to do with it.

Sundown moves so much product that I’m sure they don’t care to take the time to sort out the “bad” from the “cosmetic flaw” ones. That requires more manpower, more time, more money, etc. You can already purchase B stock from them. It’s just another avenue to get their products if you want to save money (odds are in your favor)
 

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Why would they spend time refurbishing a blown driver that they get for cheap from China. They started the yard sale as a way to clear out all this damaged or unsellable stock and it was super popular and took off. They decided to keep doing it and now even made a website for it (used to be on CACO only). If it’s popular as is, why would they change it? Sure they could filter the bad from the cosmetic bad but again that takes time, updating stock constantly, etc and to them I’m sure it’s not worth it if the system already works great.
 

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If you know something is bad (and if you are getting warranty returns, or are doing QC on stuff coming from China you probably know) don't sell it as "we're not sure if its' bad or not". Seems like a weird way to piss people off or give people a bad experience (or build weird word of mouth). Your selling defective product you know is defective and acting like it isn't.

Why would they spend time refurbishing a blown driver that they get for cheap from China. They started the yard sale as a way to clear out all this damaged or unsellable stock and it was super popular and took off. They decided to keep doing it and now even made a website for it (used to be on CACO only). If it’s popular as is, why would they change it? Sure they could filter the bad from the cosmetic bad but again that takes time, updating stock constantly, etc and to them I’m sure it’s not worth it if the system already works great.
 

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For everyone all butt hurt saying they are a slimy company , they are being 100% transparent about it and you can still get a recone kit for the woofers, and still come out cheaper then a brand new one but . They have been doing the yard sale for years. I’ve yet to see anyone complain about stuff they’ve received if you don’t wanna possibly recone a woofer then no it’s not for you.


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take it easy francis. i didn't see a single post calling them slimy. go back under the bridge and have a drink.
 

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If you know something is bad (and if you are getting warranty returns, or are doing QC on stuff coming from China you probably know) don't sell it as "we're not sure if its' bad or not". Seems like a weird way to piss people off or give people a bad experience (or build weird word of mouth). Your selling defective product you know is defective and acting like it isn't.
Im with you. They do disclose so it is buyer beware. Here is what I am still confused on. They are testing a sub to know it has a snap, crackle, pop and throwing it on a pallet or a pile. Then they sell product in the pile but say it may or may not have a problem and the price has been reflected. You would have to be aware of the problem to even put it in the pile to start with.
 

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If everyone is so concerned about the yard sale, why not call them and ask about the YARD SALE!
That's a great idea! Can't believe nobody has done that yet! LOL
 
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Im with you. They do disclose so it is buyer beware. Here is what I am still confused on. They are testing a sub to know it has a snap, crackle, pop and throwing it on a pallet or a pile. Then they sell product in the pile but say it may or may not have a problem and the price has been reflected. You would have to be aware of the problem to even put it in the pile to start with.
Sundown is very particular about their product so subs with no sound issues, only cosmetic go into the same pile.
 

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They tell you they test every sub and amp so they know if it has a cosmetic issue or a real problem. My understanding is these yard sale subs are not what they call b stock which is it functions fine but doesn’t look great. I could be wrong but always thought they had basically two different piles
 

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Yard sale and B stock are two different things. Yard sale has a real problem where as b stock is only a cosmetic flaw and works like a stock.
 
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If you know something is bad (and if you are getting warranty returns, or are doing QC on stuff coming from China you probably know) don't sell it as "we're not sure if its' bad or not". Seems like a weird way to piss people off or give people a bad experience (or build weird word of mouth). Your selling defective product you know is defective and acting like it isn't.

Warranty returns are not sold in the yard sale.

Yard sale items are new off the boat that are not 100% perfect. Something that was damaged by a customer and returned knowing that it's roached, dies not get sold in the yard sale.
 

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Warranty returns are not sold in the yard sale.

Yard sale items are new off the boat that are not 100% perfect. Something that was damaged by a customer and returned knowing that it's roached, dies not get sold in the yard sale.
Oh we bringing this back, I don’t believe anything until someone calls Derrick and ask’s about the yard sale.
 

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Warranty returns are not sold in the yard sale.

Yard sale items are new off the boat that are not 100% perfect. Something that was damaged by a customer and returned knowing that it's roached, dies not get sold in the yard sale.
I'm still digging it, though.
 
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