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"A detailed look at who Jeffrey Epstein was, his crimes and those alleged to be complicit, and the circumstances surrounding his death."

 

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I don't think he is really dead. Too many odd coincidences happened in a federal jail that has housed some very notorious criminals in the past. Mexican drug lord "El Chapo" Guzman was in the same jail for about 2 years during his trial and nothing happened to him. Two guards told to go on a 3 hour break while "maintenance" was to be done on the wing where Epstein was being held. Another "guard" on duty was not a trained guard but a general worker at the jail. He had no cell mate although jail rules required him to have one. He was supposed to be checked on at least every 30 minutes, but was not checked on for an unknown time. A former inmate of the jail wrote in an op-ed that there was no way anyone could have the materials in their cell at this jail to commit suicide and the jail cell was designed to make a suicide nearly impossible. His lawyers requested Epstein to be taken off of suicide watch days before. The camera system going out at the exact time his suicide happened. Pictures taken by a New York Post reporter of Epstein's body being delivered to the hospital shows a man with different shaped nose and ear than in pictures of Epstein when alive.

Just my opinion is that Epstein is now under extreme protected security at some undisclosed location. He was not scheduled to go on trial until next summer. Even at that length of time, his lawyers would most likely request longer to examine all the evidence the government had on him. That same evidence that is (was) tied up in the Epstein case is going to be used against other high profile people. With Epstein "dead", that evidence can now be freely used in other cases. So those other high profile people's cases can get started before the 2020 Presidential Election, showing the voters that Trump is "Draining the Swamp".
 

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I don't think he is really dead. Too many odd coincidences happened in a federal jail that has housed some very notorious criminals in the past. Mexican drug lord "El Chapo" Guzman was in the same jail for about 2 years during his trial and nothing happened to him. Two guards told to go on a 3 hour break while "maintenance" was to be done on the wing where Epstein was being held. Another "guard" on duty was not a trained guard but a general worker at the jail. He had no cell mate although jail rules required him to have one. He was supposed to be checked on at least every 30 minutes, but was not checked on for an unknown time. A former inmate of the jail wrote in an op-ed that there was no way anyone could have the materials in their cell at this jail to commit suicide and the jail cell was designed to make a suicide nearly impossible. His lawyers requested Epstein to be taken off of suicide watch days before. The camera system going out at the exact time his suicide happened. Pictures taken by a New York Post reporter of Epstein's body being delivered to the hospital shows a man with different shaped nose and ear than in pictures of Epstein when alive.

Just my opinion is that Epstein is now under extreme protected security at some undisclosed location. He was not scheduled to go on trial until next summer. Even at that length of time, his lawyers would most likely request longer to examine all the evidence the government had on him. That same evidence that is (was) tied up in the Epstein case is going to be used against other high profile people. With Epstein "dead", that evidence can now be freely used in other cases. So those other high profile people's cases can get started before the 2020 Presidential Election, showing the voters that Trump is "Draining the Swamp".

Look, I have NO problem believing what you are saying, but honestly how about posting some links actually DOCUMENTING at least some of what you are posting.

For instance, how about the hospital photos or the explanation of the cameras failing.
 

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I could not find any references to the 3 hour guard break for maintenance and the cameras going out except for on twitter, but her are links to back up my other statements:

Prison guards not doing their routine 30 minute checks: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/10/report-prison-guards-skipped-mandatory-checks-before-jeffrey-epsteins-death/

One of the prison guards not a regular guard: https://www.kron4.com/news/national/one-of-epsteins-guards-not-a-corrections-officer/

Former inmate at jail saying "suicide not possible": https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/former-mcc-inmate-theres-no-way-jeffrey-epstein-killed-himself/

Epstein losing his cell mate: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/12/report-jeffrey-epsteins-cellmate-transferred-out-on-eve-of-his-death/

Epstein lawyers requesting he be taken off suicide watch: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/12/jeffrey-epstein-taken-suicide-watch-lawyers-request/

Left pic is from the New York Post, supposedly as Epstein is being taken into the hospital Saturday morning. Right pic is from Epstein at an earlier time but rotated 90°. Nose and the inner ear are different shapes.



I still think he was put into protective custody since in mid July there was a reported attack on him by another prisoner. Having him reported dead would be a very good way of stopping future attacks on him.
 

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I don't think he is really dead. Too many odd coincidences happened in a federal jail that has housed some very notorious criminals in the past. Mexican drug lord "El Chapo" Guzman was in the same jail for about 2 years during his trial and nothing happened to him. Two guards told to go on a 3 hour break while "maintenance" was to be done on the wing where Epstein was being held. Another "guard" on duty was not a trained guard but a general worker at the jail. He had no cell mate although jail rules required him to have one. He was supposed to be checked on at least every 30 minutes, but was not checked on for an unknown time. A former inmate of the jail wrote in an op-ed that there was no way anyone could have the materials in their cell at this jail to commit suicide and the jail cell was designed to make a suicide nearly impossible. His lawyers requested Epstein to be taken off of suicide watch days before. The camera system going out at the exact time his suicide happened. Pictures taken by a New York Post reporter of Epstein's body being delivered to the hospital shows a man with different shaped nose and ear than in pictures of Epstein when alive.
Lots of food for thought. Sources would be helpful.


Just my opinion is that Epstein is now under extreme protected security at some undisclosed location. He was not scheduled to go on trial until next summer. Even at that length of time, his lawyers would most likely request longer to examine all the evidence the government had on him. That same evidence that is (was) tied up in the Epstein case is going to be used against other high profile people. With Epstein "dead", that evidence can now be freely used in other cases. So those other high profile people's cases can get started before the 2020 Presidential Election, showing the voters that Trump is "Draining the Swamp".
Interesting analysis. Seems rather far-fetched, but who knows...

While I've never seriously thought that it would ever amount to much, I've become increasingly dubious WRT "Draining the Swamp" ...particularly to the extent that such cloak-and-dagger extralegal tactics (or narrative) might be employed to do (or appear to do) so.
 

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Not even sure why this is such a big "story". People commit suicide in jail all of the time. The guy was a monster - we're better off without him anyway. He didn't want to live any longer and most people didn't want him to live any longer either. Win/win in my book. Just my opinion, of course.
 

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Not even sure why this is such a big "story". People commit suicide in jail all of the time. The guy was a monster - we're better off without him anyway. He didn't want to live any longer and most people didn't want him to live any longer either. Win/win in my book. Just my opinion, of course.
I don't suppose you bothered to watch the videos...
 

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Nope - don't care enough to. I've see the story on the news and I've already seen too much. This guy doesn't deserve the time spent on him.
Have you considered the possibility that "the news" has not faithfully reported the whole story ...and if it had, that you might have greater interest in this "story," and perhaps a few doubts and/or questions of your own?
 

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gotta love the conspiracies. its comical reading them sometimes
 

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Not even sure why this is such a big "story".....
If things come true in the next few years this is speculated about now, it will make Nixon's Watergate look like a sunny Sunday afternoon in the park. Epstein is just an appetizer leading to the following courses.
 

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Extortion black mail, fake millionaire, money laundering, politicians, music stars,
Actors, princes all video taped.

But again if I'm a boomer I have to believe everything they tell me.
 

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hes on an island with marilynn monroe as his gal, having elvis play live every night and bruce lee as security
 

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I'm not saying he is alive or not, but how does one go from fearing his cellmate to committing suicide? Either it was a rouse to get rid of his ex cell mate, a NYC cop that is incarcerated for kidnapping and murder, in order to clear the cell to commit suicide or there is foul play.

I have read media reports that the ex cop was removed and replaced with a different cell mate and his name was never revealed. However I can't find the story on fox at the moment.
 

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I think M Monroe would be way too old even with plastic surgery done by the best Israeli surgeon.

Even JonBenét Ramsey at 29 may be too old for him.
 

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I think M Monroe would be way too old even with plastic surgery done by the best Israeli surgeon.

Even JonBenét Ramsey at 29 may be too old for him.
Elvis would be right at home (on Pedophile Island) though.
 

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