The long and involved process of upgrading my 2016 Macan S stereo system

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Ge0

Discussion Starter · Apr 26, 2020 (Edited)

Howdy all,

I have a new vehicle and I'm back to my old addiction. I feel the need to gut this sucker and refine the stock audio system. Meet my latest project:

It looks like there is ample room to place subs and amp(s) in the rear hatch:

The hatch floor is recessed almost 2" below skid plates. This could come in handy for building a false floor:

A reasonable amount of space under the hatch:

Even more space with the 8" plastic factory sub removed:

Unfortunately I don't believe this sucker is going to fit.

Just too deep if I want to recess it. Also, the diameter is too big for a good fit.

I'm thinking two 10" drivers or three 8" drivers would work well. More on that in a bit.

Props go out to phroenips for giving me some ideas and inspiration to work on this vehicle.

Ge0

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Ge0

Discussion Starter · #341 · Oct 16, 2020

OK. I have a few more changes to make to my system before the winter freeze. Here is #1.

I absolutely love my Scanspeak D2904/60000 tweeters. But, they are 15 years old. I want to see how a current generation pair of D2004/602000's compare.

For thought and inspiration:

Also installing tweeter protection capacitors. 80uF non-polar audio grade electrolytic:

I was glad to see the tweeters dropped right into the factory spring clip retention system. I was sure I was going to make modifications. As it turns out no

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The protective grill on the tweeter extends about 10mm above the tweeters dome. There was a 5mm interference fit between the dome and the factory grill. So, pop the tweeter grill off with a set of needle nose pliers. The grills come off with very little force applied. The tweeter only needs 1mm clearance. A 4mm gap still exists.

Note the factory grill was warped due to an interference fit with the old D2904's. I am hoping it will flatten out again now that there is no longer a tweeter grill pressing against it.

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HIS4

· #342 · Oct 16, 2020

Very nice. Didn’t realize you could pop the grills off

Ge0

Discussion Starter · #343 · Oct 16, 2020

HIS4 said:
Very nice. Didn’t realize you could pop the grills off

I feel like an idiot. I spent 2 nights searching the topic. I did not want to ruin my new tweeters.

In the end the grills come right off with very little force. They set right back on if you need. I think they may use the speakers magnetic path to hold them in.

So, a lot of concern over nothing. I really wish ScanSpeak would publish something about this.

Ge0

THX0849

· #344 · Oct 16, 2020

Those are gorgeous! Maybe warming up the grilles a little with a heat gun and gently flattening them out would help. In my experience once warped they usually stay that way unless "influenced".

JCsAudio

· #345 · Oct 16, 2020

Looks from the pictures like those grills were set in a small amount of adhesive. I can see the glue (looks like glue) where the grill contacted the plastic body of the tweeter.

Rsrguy3

· #346 · Oct 16, 2020 (Edited)

boomeh said:
You may want to save the money you’re going to spend on that system for the inevitable repairs to that Porsche that are coming.

Porsche? That, is a folksvagen... top of the line for sure, but still a vw. This is a Porsche..... from the olden days when the family still owned and ran the company, way before Piech botched the takeover attempt. Absolutely sick system and flawlessly executed craftsmanship! I wish my project had the solid acoustics of yours!

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THX0849

· #347 · Oct 16, 2020

Dad had a '59 356 1500cc when he was younger. Loved listening to his stories about it. Since then a huge fan.

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bertholomey

· #348 · Oct 16, 2020

Rsrguy3 said:
Porsche? That, is a folksvagen... top of the line for sure, but still a vw. This is a Porsche..... from the olden days when the family still owned and ran the company, way before Piech botched the takeover attempt. Absolutely sick system and flawlessly executed craftsmanship! I wish my project had the solid acoustics of yours! View attachment 280733

That is beautiful! I’d love to have one. I saw this one on a highway in Virginia - looks to be a similar vintage.

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Rsrguy3

· #349 · Oct 17, 2020

Rsrguy3 said:
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Porsche? That, is a folksvagen... top of the line for sure, but still a vw. This is a Porsche..... from the olden days when the family still owned and ran the company, way before Piech botched the takeover attempt. View attachment 280729

Rsrguy3

· #350 · Oct 17, 2020

Why thank you, ive been puttering around with it for almost 20 years now. All joking aside the OP's P-car is definitely a more comfortable & dependable ride, especially with the revised audio, I'd trade him in a heart beat!

Ge0

Discussion Starter · #351 · Oct 17, 2020

Thank you for the complements.

Are you guys done clogging up my build log???

Ge0

Ge0

Discussion Starter · #352 · Oct 18, 2020

Oh boy. I have a lot of new toys coming in.

Dynaudio stuff. Esotan MT171 vs. MD102

Some MF171 midranges to compare to my ScanSpeak 10F

And oh [email protected]! What's this?

It's going to be a busy month...

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bbfoto

· #353 · Oct 18, 2020

^LOL, those Utopias look strangely familiar. Enjoy.

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Ge0

Discussion Starter · #354 · Oct 18, 2020

bbfoto said:
^LOL, those Utopias look strangely familiar. Enjoy.

You see I protected your identity

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Ge0

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Ge0

Discussion Starter · #355 · Oct 18, 2020

I was hoping "my guy" could score me a set of E430's to throw into this mix. However, those appear to be on back order.

Ge0

HIS4

· #356 · Oct 18, 2020

Really curious what you think of the Esotans

Ge0

Discussion Starter · #357 · Oct 18, 2020

HIS4 said:
Really curious what you think of the Esotans

I'll have them installed by Saturday the 24th I hope

LBaudio

· #358 · Oct 19, 2020

nice new toys, please report back your findings

sobe_death

· #359 · Oct 21, 2020

This is such a cool build, and makes me reconsider putting a 10" under the floor of my Touareg instead of the corner pocket. Before you lifted the floor, how well was the cone able to vent to the cabin? Did you ever listen to the SD3-10 to compare with the SD4?

Ge0

Discussion Starter · #360 · Oct 21, 2020

sobe_death said:
This is such a cool build, and makes me reconsider putting a 10" under the floor of my Touareg instead of the corner pocket. Before you lifted the floor, how well was the cone able to vent to the cabin? Did you ever listen to the SD3-10 to compare with the SD4?

Thank you for the complements.

To be honest I really don't know how well the sub would vent without raising the floor. I chose a model with a 25mm Xmech. I needed all the clearance I can get. So, I raised the floor 1.5" to give the cone 1" available for cone travel plus 1/2" air clearance. Soon after I needed to raise the floor another 1/2" due to the hatch handle. But, unless you really looked close ypu would never know it.

I don't know much about your Volkswagen. If it has a similar configuration then you may be OK with the sub under a non-raised floor. Two other users on this forum (Santirx and Phroenips) also have Macans and did not raise their floor to fit a sub. Both of them seem to like their setup.

The SD3 was discontinued at the time I bought My SD4. Therefore, I never tried one. In addition, given the space I have I'm not sure I can accommodate the SD3's magnet structure.

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