[Lance_S]

I am putting together a system for my hotrod. I have a 1970 mustang with a big/loud motor. Because the exhaust is so loud, this clearly won't be a perfect listening room. I have deadened the car with dynamat and done what I can to keep it tight but let's be honest, it's a 50 year old hot rod. With that being said, here is the current plan:

One 5 channel amp (audison LRX 5.1 or similar)
One 12" sub (I favor morel but would be open to others) This would be removable incase I wanted to run an autocross or
do a road course event. So sub would be in the truck, boxed/removable.
One pair of 7" scanspeak illuminators or similar in doors (if I can fit them), if not, something similar that is shallower

and finally, I have a pair of old Audible Physics 3" widebands with the little tiny tweeters. I think they were the NZT/AMT package.

So the question is, do I figure out a way to run these or should I just get a good tweeter that runs low enough to mate with the illuminators?

I did run these years ago in the kicks with 7" revelators and a morel ultimo sub and really liked them. But that was a decade ago and I don't know if I should be looking at newer equipment like a morel mid and tweet combo or not. Is anyone running widebands anymore or was it a fad?

Thanks in advance. I am open to suggestions. I realize the car is a terrible listening room but I still love sq and want a super clean system.

 

[Jroo]

I would assume the 3" wideband will be just as loud as any large format tweeter you would have to run. I believe that was your concern, keeping up in a loud environment.

 

[Lance_S]

Yes, but also sound quality. I may put quieter mufflers on it at some point.

 

[SQ124]

I ran Audible Physics NZ3 widebands in my 1978 Mercedes 280CE coupe and really liked them. Generally drove with the windows down, sunroof open and music blaring!

 

[Jroo]

Yes, but also sound quality. I may put quieter mufflers on it at some point.

I dont recall ever hearing bad reviews of those drivers but I think you ran them previously. Most of the SQ comes from how you install and tune anyway. I am from the school if it is broker, dont fix it and I believe you already have the drivers

 

[ecobass]

Sound quality system and a 1970’s hot rod don’t go together even with mufflers . You will be better of with a pair of coaxials up front and a pair in the rear deck to fight off all the road noise , engine sound, and all vibrations this type of car makes and still be able to enjoy music . Maybe some arc audio moto 6.5’s or 6x9 in the kicks pointing at the roof light if there’s one , and a second pair somewhere in the rear deck pointing straight up or slightly forward is what I would do.

 

[humandrummachine]

Widebands up higher might cut through the engine noise better, than high crossed 6.5's down low. I've been thinking about widebands myself, it seems that people really like them or there are complaints about no sparkle in the higher frequencies. Getting them on axis is crucial.

 

[Lance_S]

Human,

I agree. The widebands won't sparkle, but I was honestly surprised at how good they did sound up high without a tweeter. The ones I have do have a small tweet for that extra sparkle so I am good there. But I do agree with them being more in your face with them being up high. I tried them up high on the A pillars on my last install and felt like they were really directional. IOW, they didn't dissapear, they were easy to locate. That's when I moved them down to the kicks. Sounds like I will have to maybe test them like I did on my last install and see if I can deal with them up high.

 

[humandrummachine]

Then again, in some threads people say they do sparkle. Probably one of those "you gotta just try it" things. That's good to know about them being easy to locate, I wonder what causes that.

 

[Gilroy]

No idea what people even mean by "sparkle" so who knows. A good wideband, aimed on axis, and tuned well through a DSP can sound fantastic. I'm using the BLAM 2" widebands and they sound great, crossed around 500hz. I can't hear much over 15khz so the rolloff doesn't affect me.

 

[humandrummachine]

I think its that upper hi-hat cymbal sound. That BLAM sounds promising, fantastic size too.

 

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