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Hello, my first post and i would like to i found alot of information in the forums.
Simple put looking at tweeters, midrange, fullrange, and midbass speaker components.
help me understand.. If I layout a 2,3,4
2 way system, woofer and tweeter.
3 way system, woofer, midrange, and tweeter (midbass)
Is there a
4 way system? woofer, midrange, tweeter, and midbass

plus a sub for "lows" or can use a sub pre-out midbass and cutoff the extreme "lows"

Alittle background for 1st post introduction. Car Audio magazine started it all for in mid 90s, loved that magazine, do they still do the system layouts?

First system consisted of had to be one of first Sony cd players and and Autotek amp to 2 Orion subs in a bandpass. Sixteen and big mirror shaken bass.

Second system consisted of eclipse head unit, 3 fosgate 25 to life amps 45/75/150. JL subs and components. Should of just bought a couple of 150.

Anyway I feel this forum has opened up a entire new outlook on mobile audio for me. Thinking past the pre packaged components. I look forward to bring some home audio quality music in my next install. Thanks to everyone, and DIYMA.

PEACE!
KEN
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Hey Ken,
Welcome (back) to the dark side car audio. Hope you're having fun making your components list and grand system plans. I too loved all of the car audio mags back in the day: Auto Sound & Security, Car Audio, Car Stereo Review, and Car Sound. I had them all (still do)

Sounds like your trying to figure out things. What are you goals (simple/mild/complex sound system)? Are you willing construct kick panels or not? How much room can you afford to consume within the car. Budget? Time?

Answering these questions may help us/you to determine which set-up may be best. You mention a 4 way. To me, a four way consist of: tweeter, mid, mid-bass, and sub. If you plan to go this route, then kick panels may be the direction you may want to adopt. Also how many amps are you planning use? Type of processor to divide the frequencies? This may be a larger system you may not want to tackle. More power means more amps (more than one), wiring, cables, and money if your aim to do it right.

If you going a "full range" (referring a coaxial), then you may economize the existing spaces. Less need of number of speaker, amps,and processors (internal or external crossover units). This design system may include a sub woofer. This system may have the crossover included in the head unit. Do you have a model picked out?

Hope this help you with a (some what) direction.
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I too have recently decided to do a system after having several nice ones, circa 1997-2002. I thought I would be able to get by with something simple, well that didnt last tooo long:laugh:

There are great deals in the classifieds section for some higher end stuff.

From what I have seen and researched for the front speaker setup a 2way passive system is the easiest, which I have now. Now I am gathering equipment to do a 2way active setup. I am sure I will go 3way eventually.
Well for me it's like this:

fullrange - el cheapo
two-way - reasonable, a little modification
three-way - expensive, with more modification.
Four way - it's time to destroy your car in the holy name of speakers.
I was thinking about putting tweeters and midrange in kickpanels or A pillar/dash. Then i would put midbass door with if using kickpanels, or in the kickpanel if i mount midrange and tweeter in A pillars. And a sub in boot.

Power. I thought I would use an amp for each. 1 tweeter amp, 1 midrange amp, and 1 midbass amp, 1 sub amp. As for some processing I have an eclipse cd7100. Might use that @ first to save some coin.

Speakers. Looking @ running some Morels, nothings in stone.

Subwoofer. I had a JL 12w6v2 but haven't researched anything yet.

Processing. I would us old style 30 so equalizers, I don't know if they out dated because all this 3sixty.2 style units.

I have No Fear when it comes to Fiberglass and MDF
Nice start for everything. Is there a reason for going passive on the eq instead of electronic? I think the Eclipse CD7100 is a three way, so one of the amp could have internal crossovers to make things easier.

For your kick panels, I would recommend reading Mark Eldridge kick panel methodology: http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/diy-mobile-audio/51973-raising-sound-stage-raising-drivers.html
Nice start for everything. Is there a reason for going passive on the eq instead of electronic? I think the Eclipse CD7100 is a three way, so one of the amp could have internal crossovers to make things easier.

For your kick panels, I would recommend reading Mark Eldridge kick panel methodology: http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/diy-mobile-audio/51973-raising-sound-stage-raising-drivers.html
Nice start for everything. Is there a reason for going passive on the eq instead of electronic? I think the Eclipse CD7100 is a three way, so one of the amp could have internal crossovers to make things easier.

For your kick panels, I would recommend reading Mark Eldridge's kick panel methodology info: http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/diy-mobile-audio/51973-raising-sound-stage-raising-drivers.html
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