My question is simple:
IYO, which is The best Up to 3" Widebander speaker money can buy for go "twiterless"?
Requeriments:
* Up to 3" diameter.
* Freq. range up to 20,000 khz (efforthless)
* 4 ohms
(Please NO 3.5", 4"... suggestions)
Thnks!
No problem to mounting them on-axis (on dash).
Thanks for your input.
You wont find a single driver that size that excels up high, that's why traditionally people use tweeters. Tweeterless systems are less common, because they don't work as well. Dig up FR charts, hopefully with on and off axis measurements, that will tell you a lot about how a driver can do as long as you put it perfectly on axis.Thanks for your input.
I searched about its GS25. It seems a very nice speaker, but the maker recommends a LP at 12khz, so, I don´t know how well it would performs above this point
Looking for FR charts in PE site, it seem many of the drivers listed on post #2, can reach 20khz with no problem (on-axis, of course), so, what is the diference of get 15khz from a tweeter than 15khz from any of these tiny full-ranges? On the paper they are pretty the same
A tweeter will add that extra sparkle up top. Now, you have to remember that a "fullrange" driver will usually have terrible sensitivity. And when they decide they don't want to play any lower they'll let you know in a hurry. I wouldn't cross most 2" "fullrange" speakers below 800hz and most 3" I wouldn't take much below 500hz or so. Lower frequencies require cone area to keep from sounding strained and thin at higher volume.Looking for FR charts in PE site, it seem many of the drivers listed on post #2, can reach 20khz with no problem (on-axis, of course), so, what is the diference of get 15khz from a tweeter than 15khz from any of these tiny full-ranges? On the paper they are pretty the same
What you call "no problem" is anything but. These speakers have to be on axis, directly on axis. Most of us would consider that at least a bit of a problem, maybe more. You may get 20khz, but only while you are on axis, move a few inches and the top end will drop like rock. That's what beaming will do. Beaming isn't a major problem immediately, but once you're talking 2 octaves above beaming, then the problem will likely be pretty noticeable.Looking for FR charts in PE site, it seem many of the drivers listed on post #2, can reach 20khz with no problem (on-axis, of course), so, what is the diference of get 15khz from a tweeter than 15khz from any of these tiny full-ranges? On the paper they are pretty the same
Wow! I will definitely try this. It seems fit the bill!
This is a very good point. I was thinking that as I don´t care about the passenger side, I would be fine... but, if any time I turn my head to watch the mirror I will hear a noticeable loss of SQ... this definitively is a big problem!
Yep those are nice. Heard them in a couple different pillar installs.
Those Audible Physics are very nice too... I must confess I feel a strange attraction for tiny widebanders... I Love them :blush:
