Thanks for the help! I'll just keep my eyes open for the arrival of the TG series here in the statesblackreplica said:ooo i just checked the price by calling, the price is not that cheap. its about 76AUD (or 58 USD) each. Shipping to my location is virtually free but to the US i estimate about maybe 30US by regular mail. Seems a bit pricey to me, do you think it's worth it? Tangband drivers seem a lot more cost effective dont they
You wouldnt happen to know what the xmax is on these things do you? If it's at least 3mm then it might still be worthwhile
I currently have a pair of these:
http://www.tb-speaker.com/detail/1230_04/w3-1231sh.htm
Which i am planning on using as a midrange (about 300Hz onwards). I love the motor and titanium cone, and it's really well built. plus it's half the price of the vifa (30USD each). But you have to buy them direct from tangband, no retailer has them yet. Not a problem for me since i am not far from asia but for you guys in the states, shipping might not be worthwhile. It won't play to 200hz or below but will be great from 300Hz onwards i think. When i posted about it in diyaudio the guys there were pretty excited about it
I spent a lot of time thinking long and hard about what would be the perfect midrange. Now, i am no werewolf(LOL) but here is my reasoning anyway. There is no perfect midrange available for my application, so i had to weigh the pros and cons of the aura and the tangband and i felt the tangband compromise was better suited for me. Based on my calculations the TB 1231 is capable of playing to about 250Hz at nearly 100db before whilst still staying within linear excursion limits. For me, who is looking for approx 300hz as a crossover point, this is ideal. So the 1.25mm xmax will be fine. But its the underhung motor combined with titanium cone, with only one breakup mode far out of it's intended passband (i plan to cutoff at about 6KHz max), its absolutely ideal. Its Qts is also low enough such that it would function in an absolutely tiny enclosure (perfect for door pods) The real advantage this driver has over the NS3 is the sensitivity, at 89db. The aura's sens is just too low, and the way i see it, 5mm excursion is great, but in the end, it will be severely power limited anyway, especially when crossing low, so the net clean output you will get without cooking the driver would probably still be a lot lower than the tang. Then there are other minor niggles as well such as stories i have heard about the aura ns3 having a frame which is prone to rattling etc. The TB frame is absolutely bulletproof and looks like it is a lot more expensive than it really is. Just my opinion300Z said:I know the sensitivity is really low but wouldnt a NS3 be a better option than that TB3? only 1.25mm x-max on that TB...
ROFL....dude, just run em naked, you know you want towerewolf said:
It seems the problem isnt exactly in the frame but sealing it from air leaks... just wanted to clear that misunderstanding...
hey dude if it makes you feel any better i am planning on running a dual nsw2 setup first. And i think that it will be very good too. 2 of them should be enough to work around the sensitivity issue with the auras and still be able to enjoy their many benefits, though you would probably have to settle for a higher crossover point for the nsw2(say about 500Hz). Fitting 2 nsw3 drivers per side is a different matter entirely though300Z said:Yeah, after thinking about it some more i think i'll go with the NS2 or just forget about it...
Regards
Leo
Please let me know how it turns out... i'm hopping i could do just the single ns2 per side as that would be much easier to keep the stock looking or at least somewhat stock...blackreplica said:hey dude if it makes you feel any better i am planning on running a dual nsw2 setup first. And i think that it will be very good too. 2 of them should be enough to work around the sensitivity issue with the auras and still be able to enjoy their many benefits, though you would probably have to settle for a higher crossover point for the nsw2(say about 500Hz). Fitting 2 nsw3 drivers per side is a different matter entirely though300Z said:Yeah, after thinking about it some more i think i'll go with the NS2 or just forget about it...
Regards
Leo
Wow, single nsw2 per side? You might have some efficiency problems there.....i am planning on running 2 per side....i expect it should be ok from a sensitivity viewpoint. I wont know the result till december though, i'll try to post about it here when the system is done.300Z said:Please let me know how it turns out... i'm hopping i could do just the single ns2 per side as that would be much easier to keep the stock looking or at least somewhat stock...blackreplica said:hey dude if it makes you feel any better i am planning on running a dual nsw2 setup first. And i think that it will be very good too. 2 of them should be enough to work around the sensitivity issue with the auras and still be able to enjoy their many benefits, though you would probably have to settle for a higher crossover point for the nsw2(say about 500Hz). Fitting 2 nsw3 drivers per side is a different matter entirely though300Z said:Yeah, after thinking about it some more i think i'll go with the NS2 or just forget about it...
Regards
Leo
Thanks
Leo
Why? You're so close to the drivers, that efficiency is FAR less important than it would be in a non-nearfield home audio setup. I think many people wildly overestimate the midband SPL they need.blackreplica said:
i know about your setup hence i use the word *might*I think you're confusing it with the ns3... the ns2 has a much higher efficiency.blackreplica said:point noted and acknowledged
Its good to know that they work fine single, but i just cant get around something with only 80db sensitivity. Oh well, nothing like trying it for yourself
