Did you not read my post at all ?, I said it was identical to Damplifer but not as thick and looks to be pretty good stuff, let’s face if it can live up to oem standard its good stuff.
They reason I want to know who sells it to gm cause I know it’s some good stuff, and they have either got to be selling this stuff factory direct or to "middle man" than to us.
To be honest I think some on this form have some very suspicious motives.
I read your post carefully. Whether or not you choose to believe my response or accept my motives is up to you. There is no doubt that OEM specs are very rigorous and because the material meets those specs, it is almost by definition "good stuff".
After working with GM for 6 months developing the material, the manufacturer is going to have zero interest in diverting any of the material in the manner you are suggesting because it would put a large contract in jeopardy. If they find themselves in the unlikely position of having a large quantity of material on hand when the contract is terminated, it
might find its way into a different channel, in which case, you could buy all of the patches you want.
Every manufacturer that supplies sellers to the aftermarket I've spoken to likes things exactly as they are. It is in their interest to protect the relationships they have. Suppose you found Dynamat's manufacturer and asked them to produce the same product without the logo. It is very unlikely that they would agree, but you might be able to convince them to tweak the adhesive formula slightly and produce that for you - your only option short of learning enough about the product to be able to work with them to develop your own. You'd need a really compelling story to convince them to invest the time and effort. In any case, from the manufacturer's perspective, they have just created a product that competes with an existing product. For that to be beneficial to them, they'd have to expect a huge increase in total volume to make up for the downward pressure on prices. In the best case, they are now servicing two contracts instead of just one.
Having gone down this road myself, I can tell you what will happen. There are less that 1/2 dozen domestic manufacturers capable of producing what you want and they are easy to find. Contact them and they will put you into contact with a sales rep whose only interest will be whether or not they can make money off of your proposal without compromising any existing revenues. It's that simple. You'll have to purchase a full run and either pay for it all as soon as it is manufactured or, if you have the credibility and financial resources to support it, payment due in 15 or 30 days. You'll have a few pallets of mat to deal with.
The problem isn't with those of us who have who have chosen to share our understanding of the market. It is with your basic assumption that the patch of deadener you saw couldn't cost very much and that there must be a way to get something at close to GM's price. This is analogous to needing a new muffler and assuming that since GM obviously paid much less for the original one than the price you can find for a replacement, that contacting the OEM supplier will get you a better deal. That's not true for all of the same reasons that your assumptions about sound deadener are faulty.
I have a very good idea what the suppliers we deal with are paying for their products. Unjustified markup isn't the reality for high quality products. The real profit is in in selling low quality materials for prices that are pulled up by the high quality products in the market. You can buy all of the Peel & Seal you want at a really good price/ft², but that isn't really vibration damper, no matter what the people selling it for that purpose tell you. It's easy to buy flashing tape, in any quantity you want and relabel it. Lots of people are doing just that, but that's a way to make money, not a way to get a high quality product at a reduced price.
Question my motives all you want, but don't let that stop you. Fire up the Google and make some calls. One important caveat if you are able to find someone willing to laminate butyl, foil and release paper for you. There's much more to a good vibration damper than just those three components. Foil and release paper are pretty predictable - although I've seen disasters there too, but "butyl" isn't just one thing. It's actually several base materials that are then combined with many other compounds. Which compounds are used and their ratios to each other are critical. Be sure you have established testing regimens for all of the relevant performance metrics so that you don't end up with pallets of unsellable stuff that looks just like Dynamat. That's how GM does it
