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Looks likeJBL drivers.
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You're sitting in a good spot.From where I sit, they look like 2118's...
Good for you!You're sitting in a good spot.
Will you be comparing them to your B & C's...?
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Most definitely. I just got them in, actually. I built new baffles for them, because the mounting diameter on the B&Cs is almost 1/2" larger than the JBLs, so I couldn't catch all the mounting holes. I'll get pics and a review/comparison up a bit later. The shop where I bought these has a single 2226G (most are the H) and is going to track down another one for me so I can run the pair.Good for you!
Will you be comparing them to your B & C's...?
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I've now posted a short comparison in my build log, along with a few pics:Good for you!
Will you be comparing them to your B & C's...?
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum...install-pioneer-premier-single-cab-s10-3.html
I am nothing but impressed with the 2118. They've really left me at a loss for words. I had no idea a pair of 8" drivers could sound 1/2 as amazing as these do. I may go pick up the 2nd pair to keep around as a spare.
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Do you mind if I ask how much those cost you?
And do they have any 2123H's?
And do they have any 2123H's?
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I got them for $250 plus about $50 in gas to drive from Phoenix to LA and back. Of course, an 850 mile road trip is a lot more fun with some sweet tunes, I must say. Shipping was going to be $40, and he couldn't take a credit card over the phone. Plus, my OCD fired, and I had to have them right now. I have a feeling I'm not the only person who that occasionally happens to. . . I'll definitely say it was worth the drive and then some.
They didn't have any 2123H that I saw.
Shipping was going to be $40, and he couldn't take a credit card over the phone. Plus, my OCD fired, and I had to have them right now. I have a feeling I'm not the only person who that occasionally happens to. . . I'll definitely say it was worth the drive and then some.They didn't have any 2123H that I saw.
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Starting to regret my earlier decision, there Mikey.
So you swapped the JBL's for the B&C's, but what passband are they playing with what slopes? Power? How is the impact and kick of the JBL vs the B&C, because we're talking a huge difference in xmax, right?
So you swapped the JBL's for the B&C's, but what passband are they playing with what slopes? Power? How is the impact and kick of the JBL vs the B&C, because we're talking a huge difference in xmax, right?
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Same as the B&C. They're running from 100hz-800hz, -24db slopes. Wish I could run a little steeper, but it's fine for now. Power on tap is 150w/ea from my PRS-D4100F bridged to 8 ohms. The impact and kick is... not comparable.Starting to regret my earlier decision, there Mikey.
So you swapped the JBL's for the B&C's, but what passband are they playing with what slopes? Power? How is the impact and kick of the JBL vs the B&C, because we're talking a huge difference in xmax, right?
It's seriously insane. Even some of the most quiet recordings I have, i.e. older Zeppelin and Floyd stuff, is so impactful. The Dave Matthews live stuff that I use as one of my references is nuts. One track in particular- Say Goodbye- starts out with like a 3-4 minute drum solo. With the B&C, some of the lower drums sounded almost compressed or sloppy at higher levels. The snares were decent, but definitely lacking from what I expected from them. The 2118 on the other hand, dominated the lower drums, even at very high output, and the snares are just unreal. I enjoy loud music, and these more than deliver. All that being said, they are SO pleasant to listen to. When my friend was riding around with me, he made the comment that he thought because of how loud it was, it would be fatiguing and leave his ears ringing, and that he was surprised that after a solid hour of cranking it, neither of those things happened.
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I've missed them on ebay many times. The 16 ohm "J's are more common and sets in cabinets or those that need recones come up more often. But I shall remain patient........and of course.....get me a small taste of the 8NDL51's, first.now all Fox needs is a pair of these to add t his HE journey
Mikey - by the way you're so impressed with them, I'm really wondering if running a 4.5" MR down to 250hz is such a good idea anymore. I mean those JBL's only have 3 mm xmax compared to the B&C's with 7mm. WTF? I know you're cutting them at 100hz, but still. As soon as I think I have it all figured out, someone comes along a throws wrench in my gears. So THANKS A LOT!
But that's sweet you're happy with your purchase after all the effort going to get them.
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Find a cashed 1500GTi and recone to a 2226G, or even find a cashed 2226 G/H/J as long as the magnet is not shifted you are golden.The shop where I bought these has a single 2226G (most are the H) and is going to track down another one for me so I can run the pair.
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Thanks for the advice. I did find a 2226J at an east coast PA shop for like $76, but it was gone when I called them. Although the G is discontinued, recone kits are still available for it? I'll have to look into that
I already have the lead on the one G, so I guess all I need is one bad one to recone.John- I really have no idea why they sound so much more amazing, other than the fact that they're 20 year old JBL PA drivers. They honestly sound like they have double the xmax that the B&C did. Maybe that's a small overstatement, but they are profoundly more snappy and dominate the low end. And the snares... oh, the snares.
I keep going on an on like this, and my 8NDL51 are gonna sit in the Classifieds for a month! :laugh:
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Why all the recones with pro drivers? I've always wondered this. It is just a given due to long term abuse or something? Talking about quality and reconing at the same time seems odd to me.JBL is good about supporting legacy products for a LONG time... you can still get a recone kit for a D130
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