[drop1]

I'd have to say for sq mine was a pair of vented jl w7 8"s in a vented box on a jl 500/1.
Sounded amazing.
Second is the audiofrog gb 10"s I have now on 1200 watts.
My loudest by far was 2 jl w6v2 12"s in a huge vented box with a dedicated jl slash 1000/1 on each.

 

[BBOYSTEVIE]

IDW 15's IB.

 

[quickaudi07]

All depends on what you want out of your sub stage... I like my SSA X-Con ported on Mosconi Zero1 with 2400 w rms going to a sub @4 ohm,

Now is that SQ well not so much, but the sub blends so well with front stage, when comp comes yes i tune it down, and make it sing... but other than that I'm happy with it... if something happens to the sub, I don't know what I will go with next. but for sure I want the bass to feel and enjoy... SI HST-12 is in the plans.

 

[dcfis]

IDW 15's IB.

My single jbl gti1500 IB is the sound and performance I've always been wanting in a car system. So much so, maybe I'll add another one! Before that and far away above the others was a IDQ 12v2 in the bigger audiophile rec enclosure with about 300 watts.

 

[DC/Hertz]

My old DD 9512s on a 5k. Almost ruler flat 25-60hz with a strong dedicated mid bass.
Mellow or wild it did it all well. I doubt I'll ever has a sub stage that good again. The IDQ is ok but not on that same level of shear power. They would shake a bottle on the concrete 20 feet away or play at 120db with precision.

 

[Babs]

Easily the current setup.. AE SBP12's on a 2-layer baffle 7/8" and 5/8" Russian birch ply.
The fun has been getting it dialed in, to make it play "up front" which I've found after studying in Transfer Function isn't a challenge for the sub with a nice linear phase line, but the midbass drivers, so it challenged me yet to look into better door work to improve the midbass response, without the phase wonkiness from backwaves, etc that were killing them and turning response and phase into a big hit steamy pile of mess.

 

[miniSQ]

Pair of NHT 1259's in a box using some eric stevens Ap matts. 25 years ago.

 

[Lycancatt]

four idmax sealed in a blow through, mild or wild they did it all. in home it was two elemental spv2 15s off a crown k2 amp in 13 cuft ported tuned to 23 hz.

 

[Mic10is]

by definition a Sub Stage would be a stage below a stage. No idea how or why this terminology was coined to refer to the lower frequencies in overall spectral balance or what the stage has to do with it.

Staging refers to the ability of a system to present a performance like that of a live performance occurring on an actual stage. Its part of creating a 3D like experience where the performance has width, depth, height and ambiance.

Imaging is defining placement on vocals, instruments and sounds within the parameters of the stage.

Transition between frequencies should be seamless and exact locations of the sound should be transparent.

Therefore there should not be a separate stage for frequencies below 80hz.

 

[AyOne]

I'm really enjoying the IDMAX 15 IB setup I have now.

 

[Babs]

by definition a Sub Stage would be a stage below a stage. No idea how or why this terminology was coined to refer to the lower frequencies in overall spectral balance or what the stage has to do with it.

Staging refers to the ability of a system to present a performance like that of a live performance occurring on an actual stage. Its part of creating a 3D like experience where the performance has width, depth, height and ambiance.

Imaging is defining placement on vocals, instruments and sounds within the parameters of the stage.

Transition between frequencies should be seamless and exact locations of the sound should be transparent.

Therefore there should not be a separate stage for frequencies below 80hz.

In my limited listening experience for "bass" frequencies seamlessly covering those requirements, two cars come to mind as among the best I've had the pleasure to hear, and become friends with their owners.. A certain red Mazda owned by CaptainObvious, and Mr Bertholomey's venerable BRZ. Completely different low-frequency drivers and placements, but equally awesome sub "stage" perception. Jason's BRZ makes me say "if you can put a sub under a dash.. go man go". Yet Steve had two Frog subs in the sporty-hatchback wheel well area, yet I had a hard time believing he didn't have a sub literally 'IN' the dash.

I guess point being, it's not so much the location and type of subwoofers used, but rather the quality of the tune. Spent the last month and a couple months prior, attempting to refine my installation and tune to replicate that, and I feel only now am I getting remotely close, understanding more and using tools to actually see phase and ears as I try to educate my hearing for what "right" should sound like.

 

[Mic10is]

If you can locate the sub..youre doing it wrong


same goes for any speaker

 

[Babs]

If you can locate the sub..youre doing it wrong

same goes for any speaker

"Brevity is the soul of wit"
- William Shakespeare - Hamlet: Act 2, Scene 2, Page 4

 

[bmiller1]

My vented R12s. But, those Sundown SD-2's gave them a nice run as well.

 

[drop1]

In my limited listening experience for "bass" frequencies seamlessly covering those requirements, two cars come to mind as among the best I've had the pleasure to hear, and become friends with their owners.. A certain red Mazda owned by CaptainObvious, and Mr Bertholomey's venerable BRZ. Completely different low-frequency drivers and placements, but equally awesome sub "stage" perception. Jason's BRZ makes me say "if you can put a sub under a dash.. go man go". Yet Steve had two Frog subs in the sporty-hatchback wheel well area, yet I had a hard time believing he didn't have a sub literally 'IN' the dash.

I guess point being, it's not so much the location and type of subwoofers used, but rather the quality of the tune. Spent the last month and a couple months prior, attempting to refine my installation and tune to replicate that, and I feel only now am I getting remotely close, understanding more and using tools to actually see phase and ears as I try to educate my hearing for what "right" should sound like.

You can make any decent sub sound like it's in the dash.
There no real trick to it. Phase, ta, eq and midbass with enough authority to play low. That last one is really key. The higher the crossover freq the harder it becomes but up to 80 Hz is very easy to make it sound like your windshield is a sub.if your midbass won't play low enough there really not much you can do. You can raise the crossover point on your sub but you'll ruin the effect in the process. The freq response can be perfect and still no upfront bass. In fact if your mid bass can handle it you can pound and still have forward sounding bass.

This is one if the biggest areas I see cars fail. I firmly believe that if you want good bass you need good mid/midbass MORE than you need good subs.

 

[HardCoreDore]

by definition a Sub Stage would be a stage below a stage. No idea how or why this terminology was coined to refer to the lower frequencies in overall spectral balance or what the stage has to do with it.

Staging refers to the ability of a system to present a performance like that of a live performance occurring on an actual stage. Its part of creating a 3D like experience where the performance has width, depth, height and ambiance.

Imaging is defining placement on vocals, instruments and sounds within the parameters of the stage.

Transition between frequencies should be seamless and exact locations of the sound should be transparent.

Therefore there should not be a separate stage for frequencies below 80hz.

We all know what he meant tho?

My opinion is that it all depends on the vehicle as much as it depends on the enclosure and the woofers chosen. Imho a hatchback has ALWAYS given me the best SQ. I guess due to the natural transfer factor and lack of rattles.

I had a '93 Fox-Body Mustang with 2 2nd Gen round Kicker SoloBaric 8" Subs in two 1/3' enclosures. They were tiny, but they pounded like little silk jackhammers. Amazing volume, and amazing precision!

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[Sine Swept]

There are plenty of rattles in a hatchback, just no rear deck.

Trunk car, yes rear deck rattles but no noise from rear tires.

It's all a trade off.

 

[wheelieking71]

JBL 1500GTi in 4cubes tuned @ 30hz powered by a Proton D275. Bliss.

I have yet to come even close to that perfection. And I have used some really nice ****.

 

[drop1]

We all know what he meant tho?

My opinion is that it all depends on the vehicle as much as it depends on the enclosure and the woofers chosen. Imho a hatchback has ALWAYS given me the best SQ. I guess due to the natural transfer factor and lack of rattles.

I had a '93 Fox-Body Mustang with 2 2nd Gen round Kicker SoloBaric 8" Subs in two 1/3' enclosures. They were tiny, but they pounded like little silk jackhammers. Amazing volume, and amazing precision!

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I like hatchback bass but I disagree with less rattles.
The least rattling setup up I've found so far is down firing in a modern crew cab truck. The absolute only rattle I have is my rearview mirror. I'd be the happiest person in the world if I could make it stop. It's location is center stage and it horribly distracting. I'm tempted to rip it down and leave it down.

 

[Hillbilly SQ]

The best sq sub bass I've ever had is my current sub setup. Alumapro Alusonic 12 in 2.6 tuned to around 28hz. This is actually a sub that was meant to be in a home audio 4th order bandpass but never made it into a box. From what I hear this sub in in the bandpass box was AMAZING.