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2001 Mustang. Help please!

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I took a hiatus from the game for a few years ago due to a divorce and reevaluating my life. Didn’t have a vehicle worth modifying either. Just picked up a 2001 Mustang Bullitt. My 4th Mustang with the craptastic Mach stereo. And it’s extra ****ty on this 17 year old car. The car will be extensively modified in the next few years, but the interior will be discreetly changed. I am on somewhat of a budget (below $2k). I’ll be doing the install myself so labor isn’t an issue. I just need suggestions on what’s out right now that’s worth my time. Component speakers up front with coaxials in the back. DD headunit. I’d like to do a 5 channel amp since this build won’t be a competition or flashy setup. But I’m up for suggestions. And a single 10 or 12 in a ported box. What I would have bought a few years ago may not be worth my time now. As evidenced by the last time I bought MB Quart stuff. Absolute junk. Thanks in advance and fire away.
 
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what are speaker sizes on that car? I'm guessing oval?

for that budget I'd do..

pioneer 2300 double din
image dynamics cx57 fronts
polk audio db series 5x7 rears
Rockford prime ive channel amp or nvx jad 900.5
alpine type s 12 ported
deadener! front doors and rear deck

run the 5 channel amp bridged to three and power rears off the headunit.

should be pretty easy to get there under 2k
 
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I like lycancatt sugestions but i might throw in another few suggestions -

The fronts in that car are either 5.25 components and tweeters on a plate or 5x7 coax. Personally (keeping in mind my daily driver is also a mustang; I’m and have prevously done the same thing) ditch the rear speakers and go IB (infinite baffle) on the sub(s).

These cars are in my experience (once well deadened) almost perfect for infinite baffle installs and in keeping with the race-bred need-for-speed it was built for, not having a box can shave a ton of weight.

Lastly (again not just if it were my car, also having done and will be doing again) - I would go active on the front stage (separate amplifier for each speaker, 2x mid, 2x tweeter, 1x subwoofer). Again with the weight savings (not heavy tax on electrical system either) I would suggest checking out the alpine pdx v9 - delivers solid, clean, dependable power without taking a bunch of space or making a ton of heat. The 2300nex pioneer dd would be my go to in this budget too, iirc it has some basic network mode dsp baked in to allow you to run active (x-overs and eq).



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Thanks for the input guys. Guess I should have mentioned that the car has 5x7 speakers, but I’ll use whatever size works better. 5.25s seem to be more available. I also should have mentioned that the speakers will be in the stock locations with the tweeters mounted in the stock positions on the doors. I don’t want anything visible besides the headunit. Personal preference. Any other suggestions?
 
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I don't know those cars very well, but Crutchfield claims that on the Mach system, the front doors have 6x8s, not 5.25s or 5x7s. If that is the case, you should be able to fit a typical 6.5"-7" component set in there with a simple adapter baffle. 6x8 components are nearly non-existent and the few 5x7 components typically have less cone area than a 6.5"-7" woofer.

With your $2000 budget, I would ditch the rear speakers and probably do something like this...

Sound Treatment: Sound Deadener Showdown - $700
Head Unit: Pioneer AVH-501EX (Active) - $300
Amplifier: NVX JAD900.5 (w/ Amp Kit) - $300
Tweeters: Dayton AN25F-4 (Pair) - $25
Woofers: SB Acoustics SB17NRXC35-4 (Pair) - $120
Enclosure: Zen/Super Crew Sound/SRQ Customs Dual 10" - $130
Subwoofers: Dayton RS265HO-4 (Pair) - $275

All in, that puts you around $1850. Throw in applicable taxes, shipping and ancillary installation bits, and you'll be right around your $2000 budget.

I looked at quite a few different 10" subwoofers, including long throw models like the Dayton Ultimax and CSS SDX. But with the limited power of the amp and the typical enclosure size, there really wasn't much advantage (if any) to spending the extra money over the HOs.
 
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Sound Treatment: Sound Deadener Showdown - $700
Head Unit: Pioneer AVH-501EX (Active) - $300
Amplifier: NVX JAD900.5 (w/ Amp Kit) - $300
Tweeters: Dayton AN25F-4 (Pair) - $25
Woofers: SB Acoustics SB17NRXC35-4 (Pair) - $120
Enclosure: Zen/Super Crew Sound/SRQ Customs Dual 10" - $130
Subwoofers: Dayton RS265HO-4 (Pair) - $275
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I 100% support this, especially the dampening budget, the only thing I'd change personally would be the tweeter.

I'd look at the Tang Band 25-2176S instead since it'll be able to meet the midrange at a lower frequency and has pretty good THD properties for the price. Only reason to pass on them would be if the grill causes mounting issues.

Also I'm not sure how open OP is to a DSP. The soon-to-be-released Dayton Audio DSP-408 is only $149 and would be a great addition. That'd take the total budget to about exactly $2k.
 
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5x7/6x8 is the same thing on late model Fords. As for the rest, that is why I asked on here. I haven’t even heard of some of these brands. Question though, are Focal, Morel, Arc, or Hertz any good these days? The prices on some of their speakers are comparable to Kenwood and Pioneer.
 
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There are many car audio brands that have been and continue to be great. Depending on the need, there are still plenty of car audio brands that I recommend on a regular basis. If you are working to a budget, but have the funds to go active, there can be a ton of bang for your buck in "raw" drivers.

Of the brands I mentioned, here is how some of these products are related to the brands you know. NVX is essentially a "house brand" for Sonic Electronix, though it is sold through other vendors. The JAD line of amplifiers use very similar boards to the Hertz HDP amp line at a much better price. When comparing the 5 channel models, the NVX is 36% of the cost of the Hertz.

SB Acoustics (Sinar Baja Electric) is a speaker manufacturer out of Indonesia. The specific driver that I listed is virtually identical to the Arc Audio Black 6.0 at 20% of the cost. There has been a ton of (probably too much) discussion on this specific topic on this forum and many others. So much so, that I have no doubt it was a contributing factor to the very unique design of Arcs new RS line. It is unlikely you'll be seeing "clones" of those any time soon.

On the Dayton stuff, you aren't likely to see a car audio equivalent, though it has happened. Dayton does have a solid reputation though for providing products with a very high performance to cost ratio.

I 100% support this, especially the dampening budget, the only thing I'd change personally would be the tweeter.

I'd look at the Tang Band 25-2176S instead since it'll be able to meet the midrange at a lower frequency and has pretty good THD properties for the price. Only reason to pass on them would be if the grill causes mounting issues.

Also I'm not sure how open OP is to a DSP. The soon-to-be-released Dayton Audio DSP-408 is only $149 and would be a great addition. That'd take the total budget to about exactly $2k.
The Tang Band tweeters you mentioned have been my typical recommendation for budget two way installs as well. I brought up the new Daytons in the case because they can be crossed reasonably low (3kHz), are stupid cheap ($25/pair) and are a bit more compact to make installation easier.

If a stand alone DSP like the DSP-408 from Dayton is on the table, it could lead to a less expensive DD unit as well. One of my reasons for suggesting the
AVH-501EX was the active crossovers (even though the amp has them as well). If you don't need the active crossovers at the head unit, you can save nearly enough by going with a lower priced DD to purchase the Dayton DSP. Pretty ridiculous considering the 501 is only $300!
 
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A DSP would probably be a bit overkill in this car, but I’m definitely open to the possibility. It’s not exactly a quiet vehicle. I’m really just looking to install quality equipment that I can hear/feel at 70-80mph with the windows down and the rpms up.

Truckerfte: I’ve actually never had that problem. This is my third new edge car and it’s got some miles on it too. But it’s obviously been garaged it’s whole life.
 
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Lol, lucky you. But then again, mine was a $300 junkyard worthy rescue. Getting top replaced now, still need to find a dashboard and console( got lucky as hell and found serviceable leather seats and mint panels for $140.)

It's turning into a fun little project. I'm planning on building a setup based on the mentioned Dayton processor. Won't go too far with it because, well, convertible, lol.
 
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I have a 2004 GT. I have Alpine DD Hu, Hertz High Energy Comp set, Hertz coaxials, Image Dynamics ID Max 10, Sky High Amp Kit, Arc Audio 600.4 & 1100.1 The Alpine radio is the only item I have installed for right now. Even though Crutchfield says 6x8. I have 6.5's for the front. I have the 5x7 coaxials for the rear. My installer will be using Hushmat for the front doors, trunk, and rear deck. I have some Audio Control pieces that I have decided not to use. They are and EQS and 6XS. Once I get everything Installed I will post pictures. I would suggest the Arc Audio 1100.5 its a solid amplifier and does not take a lot of space.
 
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Y’all have an idea what kind of square footage I’ll need of sound deadener. I’m doing minimum both doors, rear deck, under the back seat, and the whole trunk.
 
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