[blammo585]

You should be able to ascertain what it is about any speaker that causes it to flunk their “Fits or Doesn’t Fit” test by using their website (Crutchfield’s).

With the target vehicle saved and the speakers in question pulled up, click on the “Doesn’t Fit” section to open a pop-up with Item Specs and Compatibility columns. At least one of the items will not have a check in the Compatibility column, and in the ones I’ve seen, it will list the offending measurement that causes it to not fit.

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I didn't know this myself. But it's a chore to get this info. You have to pick a speaker that you know doesn't work. It kept filtering speakers for my specific car.

 

[Notherner]

You should be able to ascertain what it is about any speaker that causes it to flunk their “Fits or Doesn’t Fit” test by using their website (Crutchfield’s).

With the target vehicle saved and the speakers in question pulled up, click on the “Doesn’t Fit” section to open a pop-up with Item Specs and Compatibility columns. At least one of the items will not have a check in the Compatibility column, and in the ones I’ve seen, it will list the offending measurement that causes it to not fit.

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Okay. I'm not using the mobile site. But the regular site does indicate for me, the offending area is depth (as expected).

The difference is quite small:


Depth: 1.876
1.664



We'll see if I can get them in there still.

 

[seafish]

Okay. I'm not using the mobile site. But the regular site does indicate for me, the offending area is depth (as expected).

The difference is quite small:


Depth: 1.876
1.664



We'll see if I can get them in there still.

If you mount the speaker on a 1/4" baffle (made from HDPE or ABS plastic or even plywood) , that will be enough to get the additional depth clearance you need.

 

[Notherner]

If you mount the speaker on a 1/4" baffle (made from HDPE or ABS plastic or even plywood) , that will be enough to get the additional depth clearance you need.

It seems to me I shouldn't have issues.


Had issues with set of 6.5" Crutchfield said would requite "moderate modifcation".


Which brings me back to me OP. Seems Crutchfield isn't as accurate as I would have liked it to be.

 

[lankfordcodi]

My Kappa space speakers should be here any day now and I will report back regarding their fit.

just a FYI. I’m using speakers that are 2.75” mount depth, crutchfield said they would not fit, only up to 2.25” I know that’s only 1/2” but I think they try to be a bit conservative with their will it fit so they are not saying something will fit and it doesn’t

 

[Kountz]

I will tell you first and that they are not accurate at all. They were telling me that my top death would keep me from running anything over 2 and 1/2 in-depth they were completely wrong.

 

[Shadow_419]

I will tell you first and that they are not accurate at all. They were telling me that my top death would keep me from running anything over 2 and 1/2 in-depth they were completely wrong. View attachment 269154

You realize you're measuring past the window track with it up? Crutchfield is conservative but not off by that much if you want a no hassle replacement

 

[Bayboy]

Crutchfield does not account for custom baffles or anything the common consumer won't have skills to do, much less the tools to do it with... nor should they.

Just how many people do you think exists that want a simple speaker replacement that know about baffles & deadening? How many even own so much as a router, dremel, or any other metal/woodworking tool?? Crutchfield is not in the business of selling gear that requires hacking up your vehicle and compensating with custom wooden & fiberglass projects. Its not really fair to criticize them for only suggesting gear that requires off the shelf exact-fit brackets they offer where any customer can install with common hand tools. They've based their business of off that since the beginning.

You want custom fit, do the legwork yourself, then you can use what you want at your own liability..... or pay a shop that specializes in custom work regardless of the level.

Man & Machine... Power Extreme!

 

[jtrosky]

You have to remember that there are TONS of different kinds of cars out there, with each model year potentially being slightly different. Combine that with all of the different speakers out there and I think that Crutchfield does a pretty damn good job of offering you more info like this than any other retailer that I know - and they offer it all to you at no charge, whether you actually buy from them or not.

They are doing what they can to help - and for the most part, the info is pretty damn accurate.

It's amazing that they have and offer the amount of info that they do. Personally, I think that they do a hell of a job with it.

 

[Notherner]

Crutchfield does not account for custom baffles or anything the common consumer won't have skills to do, much less the tools to do it with... nor should they.

Just how many people do you think exists that want a simple speaker replacement that know about baffles & deadening? How many even own so much as a router, dremel, or any other metal/woodworking tool?? Crutchfield is not in the business of selling gear that requires hacking up your vehicle and compensating with custom wooden & fiberglass projects. Its not really fair to criticize them for only suggesting gear that requires off the shelf exact-fit brackets they offer where any customer can install with common hand tools. They've based their business of off that since the beginning.

You want custom fit, do the legwork yourself, then you can use what you want at your own liability..... or pay a shop that specializes in custom work regardless of the level.

Man & Machine... Power Extreme!

Speaking of baffles - and this may be the most elementary and obvious question, please forgive me because I'm kind of a newb - do you think that's why Crutchfield only has two options for my front door? The Pioneers and the other ones (maybe MTX, I can't recall) are infinite baffle speakers?

 

[Shadow_419]

Speaking of baffles - and this may be the most elementary and obvious question, please forgive me because I'm kind of a newb - do you think that's why Crutchfield only has two options for my front door? The Pioneers and the other ones (maybe MTX, I can't recall) are infinite baffle speakers?

Compared mounting depth on a few of the 4x6's just now. The pioneer and mtx are listed <1.75" mounting depth. The others are 1.75" or more. This is likely the reason. The pioneer was listed at 1 11/16 which is just shy of 1.75". Crutchfield is likely just being conservative. A spacer or some thin weatherstripping might give you enough clearance. You may not even need the extra clearance if it's only 1/16" of an inch off. Like mentioned Crutchfield likes to make its recommendations on having the least amount of modifications and easy drop in experience

 

[Bayboy]

Just about all car audio speakers for stock locations are designed with IB application in mind, so that isn't the issue. Usually, Crutchfield limits to mounting depth, tweeter protrusion, mounting diameter, and other factor that goes beyond simple replacement.


The only way to figure out why others aren't on your vehicle list is to do like they do.. tear down and measure every bit of the area to check for obstructions that hinder door panels going back on, window operation, etc. It could be something as simple as filing of metal, trimming behind a door panel, making a custom grille, or whatever they figured the average person doesn't want to or can't tackle.

Man & Machine... Power Extreme!

 

[Notherner]

A spacer or some thin weatherstripping might give you enough clearance.

On other 4x6s that Crutchfield isn't giving me as options?

 

[Shadow_419]

On other 4x6s that Crutchfield isn't giving me as options?

Yes that's what I'm saying. Measuring yourself is always the best bet, and being willing to modify installation if needed. Not familiar with your car but look at other speakers in the size category and do the leg work to compare depth and other dimensions. Crutchfield limits suggestions but it doesn't mean they can't be made to work.

 

[Notherner]

Yes that's what I'm saying. Measuring yourself is always the best bet, and being willing to modify installation if needed. Not familiar with your car but look at other speakers in the size category and do the leg work to compare depth and other dimensions. Crutchfield limits suggestions but it doesn't mean they can't be made to work.

Their website just has me confused.

Going back to previous posts - heck professionals at Mach1 wouldn't even touch 6.5"s for my front doors but Crutch had said they would fit my car with "moderate modification".

Thankfully this forum is here and people like you are here to clarify some of this.

 

[Bayboy]

On other 4x6s that Crutchfield isn't giving me as options?

Some issues with coaxials aren't mounting depth, rather tweeter protrusion not allowing door panels to fit flush or grills to be reattached. 4x6" is an oddball size these days and most cars that use them are very tight on mounting space, so I can see the issue it presents. Dealt with the same on an old 81 Buick Park Ave that had them in the upper doors

Man & Machine... Power Extreme!

 

[Kountz]

You realize you're measuring past the window track with it up? Crutchfield is conservative but not off by that much if you want a no hassle replacement

You realize I have a mid woofer in there right now that is 4" deep and I can roll my window all the way down? You look on crutchfield website the recommendations for my 2018 Altima are weak as hell. it could cause them to lose sales for specific products because they are ill-informed.

 

[Shadow_419]

You realize I have a mid woofer in there right now that is 4" deep and I can roll my window all the way down? You look on crutchfield website the recommendations for my 2018 Altima are weak as hell. it could cause them to lose sales for specific products because they are ill-informed.

Any adapter or baffle used? Measure to the window with it down.
You can make lots of stuff fit and work correctly if you're willing to work a little bit more. Most people aren't willing or want to. Some just complain

 

[Kountz]

Any adapter or baffle used? Measure to the window with it down.
You can make lots of stuff fit and work correctly if you're willing to work a little bit more. Most people aren't willing or want to. Some just complain

Factory baffle. Cut out the factory speaker

 

[Shadow_419]

Factory baffle. Cut out the factory speaker

You just made my point. Thanks