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Best 6x9 midbass for active 3 way front stage?

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#1 ·
Currently running Focal KRX3 ways active on Arc amps with an Audison bit one, but now I'm building a new front stage in a 2018 Ram truck and would like to run a 6x9 in the factory location (appropriately deadened) for the mid bass. Seen Audio Frog , Image Dynamix and Hertz have 6x9 drivers but have very little experience with them in the dedicated active midbass application. Appreciate your feedback, I prefer heavy midbass and expect to run 150 to 250 to each. Thank you again for your experience
 
#3 ·
Not a lot of options in the 6x9" a la carte category, but there are ones that seem to be worth the penny. Audiofrog appears to offer one of the best current values that offer full parameters for technical viewers. HAT offers the Unity and has it's fans as well. CDT offers several of lower cost, but appears to be hit or miss with users though. Maybe a few more, but most of them aren't a la carte. Have to strip them down from a component set. Probably not a bad option for tight budgets, but if you're spending good, then that's probably beneath your options.
 
#20 ·
150 to 250 to each meaning power, they'll all be appropriately crossed and tuned. Sub will be 80 and below.

General consensus is AF or Unity, read a ton of previous post supporting the same, to be honest the AF version looks a bit anemic and I'm not a brandwagon kinda guy though they seem to back up the train following them right now.
Don't like the delicate nature of the ID 6x9's experienced by another user here so their out, know one really mentions the Hertz option....anyone use that? Vehicles an 18 Ram 2500 Limited so I'm not cutting doors etc it will be a 6x9 replacement, entire door has a thick one piece hard plastic cover and I'm not modifying or having anyone modify that on a 75K truck, it is actually a well designed door and much better than the previous versions I've seen from many other brands, it will be deadened inside and out as well ad door panel deadened and then covered with a layer of 1/4 mat over the noico 80. Thanks for the input thus far everyone
 
#6 ·
i think the Gs690 from AF would be a solid choice. Focal makes a lower end 6x9 too, just not sure how much you are looking to spend.
 
#7 ·
I've been looking for one as well and it seems the hat unity 6x9 put out the most output. Based solely on reviews and comparisons. A guy linked me a tang band 6x9 from parts express. It looks like it would slam if you can fit it. Its quite deep.
 
#8 ·
That Tang Band has been out for years. In fact, there were two different models IIRC, but neither appealed to me on paper and modeling as far as excelling in a door. I'd stick with one of the aforementioned brands

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#13 ·
Have you ever heard a well tuned Audiofrog system? Audiofrog speakers aren't worshiped because of who's behind the brand...well maybe a little:pBut the real reason people love them so much is because they flat out deliver and in my opinion even the flagship offerings are a good value for what you get.


As for my suggestion for a midbass only 6x9 woofer the gs690 is an excellent option from 60hz and up. Mine sounded a little bonky crossed at 50hz 24db but might have been the wimpy "pod" FCA uses in the doors causing that. Crossed at 40hz with all the cuts removed...HOLY COW! Mine are crossed 60-2900 right now but am working on a tune to cross them and the tweet at 2500 since I've been told the gb10 can handle 2500 without breaking a sweat.

That Tangband 6x9 is more of a rectangle and the x9 holes would need A LOT of cutting to get them in there. I tried them in the back doors of my 09 Ram (first year of the meat and potatoes of what the Ram is now) and they were just "OK". Was using them for sub duty though and they fell off a cliff at around 40hz just like winisd said they would. Left them in that truck when I got rid of it because the openings were basically destroyed to get them in there. Sounded shockingly good on factory headunit power. When I ran them for sub duty I had a PG x400.1 on them.
 
#14 ·
I'm not a fan of any particular brand. I'm a fan of accurate specs, modeling, and measurements. If a brand has the parameters I'm looking for I will consider and examine any available graphs or third party testing including comparative modeling.

Frogs do seem costly and have an almost cult-like following, but so are several other brands. The main thing is what's being offered isn't something overly exceptional, it's what's missing from a large portion of the market in general. With many brands selling out, going down, or just completely kaput, it's getting harder to find gems that actually suit the needs of car audio enthusiasts, not just regular consumers. With that, if something good comes out, it is expected to become popular at least for a while. I see no harm there. You want better from other sources, request it and hope they listen.

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#15 ·
I have the IDs in my Ram crossed over at 2800hz and people who've heard my truck always comment on the midbass. I'd love to get my hands on a set of the frogs so I can do a back to back comparison.
 
#18 ·
Appropriate? Hardly... but we get the message. Got it some years ago. Meh. Some boners are more than just that. They're good products that happen to be marketed at the right time. Any words/thoughts about the latest 8" midbass craze despite having been out for a couple of years?

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#21 ·
In all honesty, I think you would be fine just by moving up in cone area regardless of what driver you choose. I say that by experience in what I'm currently using. Although my doors are built for a 6x9", I stuffed 8" woofers in there (not the best fit I know, but) and not of the elite type. The drivers that resided in there before are considered such and proved to be winners for the application, but moving up to an even less expensive bigger cone with the addition of an inexpensive small mid owns the combo before it. However, I did my homework to make sure the "el cheapo" drivers would be up to the task handed to them. That said, I don't think any of the suggested 6x9" options would disappoint. Physics over brands.

Anyways... carry on.
 
#24 ·
What were the new drivers you settled on. I know you test a good amount of equipment so I value your opinion.
 
#26 ·
Thanks for the detailed response!
 
#30 ·
I have a 2014 with 6.5 morel in there coming from the Fosgate 6x9, although cheap did have some bass. Ive made they up with clarity but Id love to see if you get either the ID or AF 6x9 in the door so I can try to pull more bass forward. I have to crossover the 6.5's to high I can locate my subs location too easily in the mix.
 
#31 ·
How high do you have them crossed? I would look at improving the tune and relationship between sub & mid around the crossover point before jumping ship

Not denying that extra cone area has some benefits, but throwing more cone area isn't always the answer. Plenty still do fine with a 6.5" even in a 3-way and I have contemplated going back down since an 8" isn't as good in the 400-600hz area like most 6.5" are. There's always tradeoffs.

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#34 ·
I just added AF GS690's to my truck. They replaced NVX XPS 6.5 speakers. WOW, what a difference. Midbass is now sitting on top of my dash instead of being stuck down in the lower door. My bass is so much stronger because it integrates better with my subs. Even my low bass is coming from the front now. I was expecting to give up some midrange and imaging with the 6x9's but boy was I wrong. These things have terrific midrange as well. I thought that I would have to go from 2-way to 3-way but probably don't have to for now
 
#36 ·
Sorry its not a Ram. It is a 2014 chevy Silverado that originally had 6x9. I used a Metra speaker installation kit. I usually make my own rings but cheaped out his time. I had to modify the Metra rings just a tad.
 
#38 ·
FYI, just a few other brands with 6x9 components, pioneer has a set, JBL has 2 different sets and infinity has a few sets. I actually own the kappa perfect 900. Probably one of the sexiest 6x9 midbass drivers ever. So options are out there.