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Best DSP Amp for system?

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#1 · (Edited)
My plan is to have a three way active system and a rear sub consisting of:
  • ML 280.3
  • ML 700.3
  • ML 1600
Either I go with a DM 810 & a staggered amp or I look for a DSP Amp, which is where y'all come in.

Which DSP amp would be able to get the job done? Keep in mind its gotta have a DSP channel for the sub (I also have a separate amp for the sub), Thanks!
 
#2 ·
If you choose a helix or match product that provides the number of channels and power that you desire, you will have all of the processing power you could want.

Alternately, if you don't want to have to learn or spend the time to tune, get one of the minidsp/dirac setups and you'll also be pleased...
 
#5 ·
For the money and support, functionality and using the latest firmware, I purchased the DM810. I'm running front/rear comps and dual 13" 33v2 Focal subs. Three amplifiers - AC 4.300 (tweeters), Focal FDP 4.600 (6.5s) and a DS18 Hooligan 3K to the Focal subs. If I was starting out fresh, I would have gone with an 8 channel DSP amp with a sub out, could have saved a couple hundred dollars but got pretty smok'n deals on everything so there's that. In your setup, I would grab this for $899:

AudioControl 6 Channel Class D 1200 Watt Amplifier w/ Channel Summing LC-6.1200 851523007201 | eBay

Heck offer this guy $650:


• 6 x 200 W @ 2 Ohms, 125 W @ 4 Ohms, 3 x 400 W @ 4 Ohms bridged -has full DSP for the six components and a DSP sub out too.
 
#11 ·
I'd say Sony is in the game too.


There's Sony's budget option too!

 
#14 ·
Sorry you had a poor experience; I've never had one issue. The new software/firmware addressed all of the issues that I was aware of going into the purchase. Not many manufactures are going to assist you unless you purchased from and authorised retailer or directly, (not very common on ebay) which is a pretty common practice. My purchase was registered with AudioControl even then they didn;t question me so not sure why you were treated like that. The software and feature set are not that different, feature wise more or less for the most applicable configurations. That said, the Helix would have been the preferred choice but already owning the amplifiers, getting the DM810 and the remote, open box from an authorized local retailer selling the display model for $550, that was nearly half the price of the Helix. Even at the $799, it was still several hundred dollars less, nothing to sneeze at. The helix is probably topsin most categories but you pay a lot for that difference and a lot of people are not going to really scratch the surface of what the difference offers - IMHO.
 
#15 ·
I would definatley go with a P Six , trust me its more than enough to make all those drivers break a sweat and will sound amazing while doing so.

dont forget if you buy a used P Six that has already lost its deappreciation but one thats clean,solid you will not only use an item thats simply amazing but if you sell it before its too old/outdated you will most likely have used it for near free of charge.

you cant do this with other cheap alternatives most of the alternatives yes are cheap but they get replaced far too soon making the previous model deappreciate too much too soon, they arent easily sold second hand and they dont satisfy as much to begin with most of the time.

P Six before the P Six ultimate was around for many years before it got replaced and I'am sure the Ultimate wont be replaced for atleast another 4-5 years.

play it smart buy one used from a reliable source,use it and sell it out before the new one comes out= pratically use it free
 
#16 · (Edited)
If you are looking for high-end gear, Helix, Mosconi, JL or Audison are your best bets.

Either of the new Audison FORZA 8-channel DSP Amps will work perfect, since Audison also makes the top-of-the-line Hertz speakers you are planning on running.

The AF C8.14 has 65wpc, which should be fine for your Tweeters & Mids and then you can bridge the last 2-channels together to send 200w to your Woofers.
OR
The AF M8.14 has 90wpc which should be very fine for your Tweeters & Mids and then you can bridge the last 2-channels together to send 280w to make the Woofers pound!
AND
Both of them use the new Audison DSP software (NOT the old one that most people hated..
AND
Both of them feature the ability to OUTPUT 6-additional DSP Channels, which includes a channel for your Sub Amp and the 6 additional channels can be ANY brand of Amp!

 
#17 ·
Ill admit ive been lazy following threw with AC.
Ill download the latest software and give it a shot.
My issue was hardley no output to amps. I put my sillyscope on the outputs and got .3v max output.
The Ebay seller said they were AC registered dealer but much more was pushing to deal with AC and they are now they are dead and gone on ebay.....
 
#21 ·
damn thats an amazing price and exactly what I meant when saying you need to buy smart,
I'am sure when times come around to sell the item any potential buyer of that M4DSP will easily sell it again for 400 per perhaps even more, worst case scenario he too will discount it to 350 and will have used it for all that time for 50 bucks.

If I was situated in the U.S I would have bought it and wouldnt even look back.

you could potentially add a PDX V9 to it and have 4 channels 100rms + 4 more channels 120rms (v9's are underrated and actually do 120rms) + a sub channel at 520-580rms (typical sub channel verified output) all with 2 amps the size of a book that potentially could fit even underseats (now ask me aswell how I know :) )

120rms to midbass
120rms to midrange
100rms to tweeter
100rms to rearfills that the M4DSP can actually do very well with the Helix Software.
 
#23 ·
Any of the Helix or Zapco DSP/Amps will do the job with great SQ. Lots of people that love the Audison Forza range too (I have not worked with it personally though).

If you want something cheaper, look at the Match and Musway offerings.
 
#24 ·
You need a DSP amp with at least 7 channels. As there are no DSP amps with 7 channels i would go for any 6channel amp with 8 channels of DSP.
You cannot go wrong with current offerings from Mosconi (Pico 6/8, One 6|10), Helix, JL Audio whatever. All are quality brands that will do the job well enough to satisfy almost any customer. It just has to match your budget and your tuning capabilities, i.e. if you're comfortable with their respective software versions.
If you have someone else install and tune the amp, let him "decide", i.e. if he's most familiar with any of the products, choose the one he wants you to put in into the car.
 
#25 ·