Thanks for the review, Nguyen...

Your new favorite dome? That says a lot...

I've got my ATC dome mids x-ed at 360 Hz with 4th order slopes... I've found that output begins to drop noticeably at 315 Hz...

 

The ATC's are actually very good, and more dynamic and effortless but for $35 each the rs52 is very hard to beat.

 

You could buy quite a few for the cost of a pair of ATC's... :blush:

 

Nice. My only complaint of the Ushers was the size of the flange/width of the motor. These look much more compact and caraudio friendly.
These look like a bargain for me to try a 4way active front plus sub
Leave the lower midrange to my 4's and xover those RS's to play from their sweet range up.

 

Nice. My only complaint of the Ushers was the size of the flange/width of the motor. These look much more compact and caraudio friendly.

USHER - 5-7/8" flange, 4-1/2" cutout, 1-3/8" depth
DAYTON - 5-1/8" flange, 4-1/8" cutout, 2-1/8" depth

Damn! Still too large to fit on my A-Pillars. Although, i like the Idea of using a sealed back mid up there over say the TRIUS(TG9) in the pillar in too small of an enclosure.

I just don't like the idea of a big speaker on the pillar. You get visual reflections off of the windshield as well.

Car audio is not easy!

 

Why cant you turn the ring down to a smaller size on a lathe? If you could knock off a full inche in diameter that would help out a good bit. At least it would for my truck. LOL

Mike

 

Not sure if that can be done...look at the screw holes:

 

I would just drill new holes. I did not know if the large ring was there for just looks or if it had something to do with how the driver responded.

Mike

 

I see what you are saying but the cup is still large...say compared to the TG9/TRIUS mids. Again, the lack of enclosure needed makes them still very attractive.

So, Mike...I don't have a lathe...are you offering your services?

 

Taking an inch off the faceplate wouldn't work too well... at that point you'd basically just have a faceplate connected to the rear chamber/motor, with no way to mount the speaker... unless you lathed down most of the faceplate and left a couple of tabs extending outside the rear chamber diameter I don't think it would work... would be better off rear mounting them.

 

You can remove the front flange by taking out those four screws. Make the cutout hole in the pillar 2", or just big enough for the dome. Then rear mount the driver using those same screws that held on the flange. Should make for a very discrete installation too.

 

Right, except that 2" is too small for the surround to fit, and if you want the grill also you need to drill another groove for it to sit in... I found that 2 7/8 inches works perfectly for the grill hole, and 2 9/16 works perfectly for the opening.
I don't have access to a good camera right now, but I took a couple quick pics with my cell phone to show how it looks when finished... I'll take better ones later.

 

Bob, How did you get the grill of the mid? I looked at doing a setup like yours but was afraid to pull on that grill to much as I did not want to bend it.

Thanks
mike

 

Bob, How did you get the grill of the mid?

You can probably just pull it off if you hook into the grill, but if you're worried about that just pull the faceplate off by unscrewing the mounting screws. You can then just pop the grill off by pushing from the back - it's just held in by a bit of adhesive of some sort.

 

You have to remove the faceplate, and then hit it out with something from the back side to break the glue joint. I used the back side of a screwdriver with a fairly large rubber handle... left a couple dents in each one, but unless you look at them from profile or up real close they are unnoticeable, and even then they aren't too bad. No damage to the coloring or anything. If you had a rubber ball about the size of the opening and stuck that in there and hit it from behind you would have better results with no dents I'd assume, but I didn't have anything like that laying around.

 

Are these good at 30-50 degrees off axis?

 

I have them mounted almost perpendicular to me in the kickpanels... and they are good at least up to my crossover point of 3600hz 24db/oct that far off axis.

 

If these are used on axis with the peak at 13k eq'ed out, is there any need for a tweeter?


-Kris

 

Does the metal grill need to be there? If not, what do they sound like without the grill in place? How much change would there be in response?

 

If these are used on axis with the peak at 13k eq'ed out, is there any need for a tweeter?


-Kris

ditto bump

 

It's not needed, especially if you are a full range driver fan... but personally, I would still use a tweeter as the driver begins to beam above a certain point.

 

What would a good xover point between the RS52 and an RS225, in a tower for home audio duty .........Either an LPG 26nafm or Neo 3 on the top end.

Possibly might be off topic but does the RS52 work well in home being a dome as well as in a car, but with a low enough ~6k or so before beaming may start would it be a good point for the tweet, and down low possibly around 400hz, mabey 500hz then the RS225 play down to a good 40 or 50hz, dual tempest sonotubes down low.

 

What would a good xover point between the RS52 and an RS225, in a tower for home audio duty .........Either an LPG 26nafm or Neo 3 on the top end.

Bump for discussion on this setup, particularly for a car setup w/ the 26nfa.

 

i'm considering these mids for my qforms crossed between 1khz and around 5khz. here's the catch...my tires are allterrains and my magnaflow exhaust really bellers when driving around town but is whisper quiet on the hwy up to about 65mph. do you think these dayton domes could keep up and at least get up to near painful listening levels without selfdestructing if crossed high enough? with the loud truck and my hearing being somewhat shot i need whatever i get to be loud and fairly bright.

 

if you want loud and bright, you should match that driver with a focal tweeter and aim it right at your ear. Normally I would never recommend that, but you said you want bright.