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First time system builder - could someone check over this?

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#1 ·
Recently I've been getting into car audio - trying to build a system for my small little '85 Celica. I've been reading reading reading for a few weeks now and I think I'm just about ready to start buying gear. I just want someone to do a once over on my situation and make sure I'm not blatantly missing anything.

Current Gear
cheap Sony Xplod CDXGT320 (17w rms x 4) - Which only has one rear preamp output.
Polk audio 6.5" speakers. (60w rms)
stock 3.5" front speakers - one buzzes haha


With my nearly-blown stock front speakers and the polks being underpowered by my head unit it basically sounds awful.

So what I'm looking do it is:

decent set of 4" speakers to replace stock fronts
300w 4 channel amp.
High-low level line converter for front speakers, since I don't have a preamp output for them.


Any suggestions on components, or things you'd do differently are welcome.
Just keep in mind I have the budget of a college student with only a part time job :thumbsup:

I also made a cheesy diagram, but If someone could look over that too to make sure I'm doing this correctly..

Thanks!

Justin
 
#4 ·
Using 4" simply because I'm reusing the stock 3.5" dash location, and that's all the bigger I can fit in there. Door panels for my car are getting pretty rare too, so I don't have the heart to cut into them.

I'm also trying to keep things simple, so no tweeters for me yet.
 
#3 ·
your can run your pre out from the sony into an amp and run the output from the amp to any speakers (front or back or both)

if you get new speakers for the front and leave your polks in the back, and put all the speakers on an amp AND WIRE EVERYTHING CORRECTLY you will probably be pretty happy

could be done in 1 day for $150.

3.5"

Four Channel
 
#6 ·
people will rape me for suggesting this, but i would wire the speakers/amp so your balance becomes your fade, not ideal, but it would work and give you some control of front to back balance, or setting the gains on the 4 channel amp carefully would balance the front to back well and leave the balance as normal?

you have options,

speakers are typically 4 ohms, and most amps do 4 ohms per output, no need to series anything, just wire em up

:)
 
#7 · (Edited)
Good Ideas on the balance/fade situation.

Sounds like I should be good to go with just the one preamp out, and wiring the speakers "sideways"

I'm gonna do some more price checking (and check a few pawn shops) tomorrow.

Thanks for the help.


Edit: Actually, could anyone suggest a quality pair of 4" speakers? Looking to spend about $60-70. Right now I'm looking at rockfords, inifinitys and polks in that range, is there anything else?
 
#8 ·
be certain you can get 4 inch speaker in there if your going to buy 4". for what your doing the selection and price at this place cant be beat.

4"

you can probably find a $100 speaker for $60 if you look (huge discounts on some models) any of the well known brands will be good

sony,polk, alpine pioneer kenwood etc etc

id get these

http://www.woofersetc.com/p7980/GTO428--JBL-4"-Grand-Touring-Series-2way-Speakers.htm

http://www.woofersetc.com/p7981/GTO328--JBL-31-2"-Grand-Touring-Series-2way-Speakers.htm

you CANT GO WRONG with jbl
 
#9 ·
After looking again, I'm not so sure I can fit 4's in. So I'm going to use 3.5's.

Current shopping list is:

JBL 3.5's - $50
Amp wiring kit from woofersetc - $20
Some extra speaker wire - $10

Refurbished JBL GTO75.4II 520-Watt 4-Channel from harmanaudio, last one ended for $83, I'll be happy if I can get it for <$100\


Looks good to me, any comments?
 
#10 ·
Hey again, re-bumping this thread.

I got a decent deal on a JBL GTO75.4 II at $82
ordered speakers and a 8g wiring kit also.


Now I have some more questions,

#1. This amp has the option of high-level inputs, I'd only have to use them for the front channels. I've heard that these kind of kill sound quality, but do they really? I would think that the ability to both fade and balance, and also set the input level of the fronts separate from the rears would be worth it if the sound degradation isn't too much.

#2. When wiring the remote turn on lead for the amp, I patch that into the 12v switched (ignition) wire, right?
 
#11 ·
I've heard the same thing about high-level imputs but I don't know how accurate my source was. so someone else more knowledgeable will have to give the final word on this.
Your HU should have an amp remote turn on lead it's typically blue like the remote wire. Use that. Other wise your amp will be on when your car is on even in your radio is not. It's not a big deal but it's not the ideal way to do it.
 
#12 ·
Get some RCA "Y" splitter cables and split the (1) pair output to (2) pair and feed the 4 channels of input on the amp. Be sure to get the correct "gender" ends...they come in many different combinations!

As far as balancing the sound levels, just turn down the gains on your amp for the rear channels.

Yes, switched +12v will work, but as borahshadow stated, there should be a blue remote turn on wire coming from the HU.

Robert