all Tun software is the "full" version. when you open it you merely select the amp / processor you are using and select it or select the "simulation" version and go use it. the TWK does not support all of the same function as the vxi amplifiers, (no all pass filters) but otherwise is the same. it has nothing to do wth windows 11 etc.

btw, the screenshots you provided are for audio control and not the JL Tun software.

 

The fix 86 is not a dsp. You do not any of functionality of the twk.
Its only function is to flatten the oem signal.

 

The fix 86 is not a dsp. You do not any of functionality of the twk.
Its only function is to flatten the oem signal.

Yes, it is a DSP.
You think it corrects time alignment with jolly ranchers or Skittles?
And yes, you can adjust things with TuN.

"you can also access a complete suite of diagnostic panels that show the frequency response of input signals, as well as the corrected outputs. Adjustments can be made to input polarity, muting, and filtering, and new calibrations can be initiated from the PC as well. By clicking on the “TUNE” tab of the TüN® interface, you can also access four, user-adjustable, 10-band, graphic equalizers to fine tune the output signals."

 

Thx for the responses, I understand the function of the fix 86. It just corrects the oem signal.
It does allow to view the correction made and some basic output gain and drc settings in the software.

I was merely posting the audio control screenshots for informational purposes and to show the fix is actually working.


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I’ll try again but the only tab that populates is the simulation mode.
Even when I choose the fix 86
it seems like never actually recognizes the fix is connected to the laptop.


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I’ll try again but the only tab that populates is the simulation mode.
Even when I choose the fix 86
it seems like never actually recognizes the fix is connected to the laptop.


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If you have TeamViewer I can log in and help real quick.

 

The audio control input eq uses the same processor as the output eq.
So it limits “ how much “ you can correct the input eq only.
It does nothing for time alignment.




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Here’s an example of how using the auto input eq function affects the output eq.

It’s already used quite a bit of the limited processing power to flatten the input signal.

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Even with the updates. You cannot control the changes the fix makes.
It is not an adjustable dsp. It uses those functions it mentions automatically.
It's not a tunable dsp. You still need the tek or any other processor after the fix devices.
You can not use it as a stand alone dsp in functionality at all.

 

I feel like I’m running in circles,
repeating the same thing over again.

Taking this to technical discussion


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I feel like I’m running in circles,
repeating the same thing over again.

Taking this to technical discussion


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Take it wherever you bro...not gonna be able to tune a damn thing with a fix86.
Not here. Not in tech. You could do something productive and take it to the classifieds to sell and then get what you actually want.

 

If the AudioControl has an input EQ why use the fix? Seems kinda redundant right? Just my 0.02 pesos.

 

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I guess I missed where it stated that it fixes factory time alightment... 😇 carry on, I'm also out.

 

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I guess I missed where it stated that it fixes factory time alightment... 😇 carry on, I'm also out.

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That, and using the input EQ on the AC DSP tied up some of its processing needed for tuning the output. OP is doing exactly what the devices are meant for, just needs to figure out why the software isn’t allowing any adjustments of the FiX.

Could it be the cable? Or the USB port? I assume you’ve tried re-installing the software and updating the Fix.

 

Wait..... using the input EQ affects output EQ processing power?

 

Some group members should not talk about things they don’t know ANYTHING about. First things first. Yes the fix 86 is a type of DSP. It’s very limited and yes, you can adjust crossovers, but it’s a simple crossover net work for the front, rear and subwoofer. you could do high pass, low, pass and flat on all three & it has a simple EQ it’s graphic. It’s not as sophisticated as a normal DSP, but you can make adjustments to all four of the channels for the front and rear. I believe it has 10 bands of adjustment it’s a simple EQ nothing more, but to say here that it doesn’t have crossovers or adjustability is simply not true so before you speak about something know what you’re talking about before you confuse other members here.

also, if you have the knob for it, you can control the bass and the volume of the unit. It also has a function where you could set a high pass crossover to limit the bass output of your subwoofer in case you lend your car to your kid or to the valet or whatever.

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Some group members should not talk about things they don’t know what they’re talking about. First things first. Yes the fix 86 is a type of DSP. It’s very limited and yes, you can adjust crossovers, but it’s a simple crossover net work for the front, rear and subwoofer. you could do high pass, low, pass and flat on all three & it has a simple EQ it’s graphic. It’s not as sophisticated as a normal DSP, but you can make adjustments to all four of the channels for the front and rear. I believe it has 10 bands of adjustment it’s a simple EQ nothing more, but to say here that it doesn’t have crossovers or adjustability is simply not true so before you speak about something know what you’re talking about before you confuse other members here.

also, if you have the knob for it, you can control the bass and the volume of the unit. It also has a function where you could set a high pass crossover to limit the bass output of your subwoofer in case you lend your car to your kid or to the valet or whatever.

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Its not a dsp. The reason you can't adjust anything.
You will never be able to use a fix at all to tune a system. At all. No adjustments. The adjustments are made for you. It only gives you a flat signal. No further adjustments can be made.
Try all you want. You'll never tune a system with just a fix.
A kicker keylock is a better option at this point in time.

 

Btw it should just work when connecting your laptop ( via USB) that’s the only way you can adjust things if you’re using a Windows laptop you may need a driver or something. I use an Apple computer so it simply just works when I hook it up. if you send an email to JL. They are usually very quick with technical support.

 

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so you suppose the processing is analogue or digital? Your photo shows what appears to be an equalizer. After you flatten the signal, can you use that equalizer to "adjust" the sound to your liking? I don't know about the FIX86, but a previous car had a FIX82 and I was able to do that.

 

Sometimes in life it’s better to ignore ignorance.

It’s not a “fully” featured DSP because

a. Some people don’t want or need that. Hence the JL TwK 88 that gives you FULL control of t/a, a lot more xover choices, parametric eq…etc

b. JL would prefer to sell you another box (twk 88) than simply have full capability built in to the fix 86

C. By now most everyone knows many many cars are coming from the factory with built in t/a, factory eq, etc… the fix does EXACTLY what it’s called FIXES THIS! Gives you clean slate to work with.

for the consumers that want a basic Xover network. Basic eq and something that gives them a clean slate to work with this is WHAT it does.

only x amount of higher end DSP’s have the ability to de-eq factory systems.

And just cause the kicker key lock has an all pass filter doesn’t make it the right tool for the job.
Sometimes people just want a basic system intergration.
Think of the fix 86 as like adding an aftermarket head unit.

Front has high pass xovers or flat
Rear has high pass overs or flat
and low pass over for the subwoofer.
Plus the 10 band eq which you can control independently.
Sadly can’t eq the sub.
JL isn’t stupid enough to give us that much control and eat into twk 88 sales!

And yes it “corrects” or removes factory t/a

so whether you like it or not. It still is a DSP. Only by definition.

just cause you can’t control everything like a standard DSP can doesn’t mean it’s not manipulating the signal and processing it digitally.

Again look at my screen shots!

even with proof of its functions some people just prefer to bury their heads in the sand.

thank god for the ignore button

 

Sometimes in life it’s better to ignore ignorance.

It’s not a “fully” featured DSP because

a. Some people don’t want or need that. Hence the JL TwK 88 that gives you FULL control of t/a, a lot more xover choices, parametric eq…etc

b. JL would prefer to sell you another box (twk 88) than simply have full capability built in to the fix 86

C. By now most everyone knows many many cars are coming from the factory with built in t/a, factory eq, etc… the fix does EXACTLY what it’s called FIXES THIS! Gives you clean slate to work with.

for the consumers that want a basic Xover network. Basic eq and something that gives them a clean slate to work with this is WHAT it does.

only x amount of higher end DSP’s have the ability to de-eq factory systems.

And just cause the kicker key lock has an all pass filter doesn’t make it the right tool for the job.
Sometimes people just want a basic system intergration.
Think of the fix 86 as like adding an aftermarket head unit.

Front has high pass xovers or flat
Rear has high pass overs or flat
and low pass over for the subwoofer.
Plus the 10 band eq which you can control independently.
Sadly can’t eq the sub.
JL isn’t stupid enough to give us that much control and eat into twk 88 sales!

And yes it “corrects” or removes factory t/a

so whether you like it or not. It still is a DSP. Only by definition.

just cause you can’t control everything like a standard DSP can doesn’t mean it’s not manipulating the signal and processing it digitally.

Again look at my screen shots!

even with proof of its functions some people just prefer to bury their heads in the sand.

thank god for the ignore button


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5hats not a dsp sir. That is a signal flatting device.
SFD if you must. They are not same. Not designed the same or for the same purpose.
Ever heard a flat signal? Sounds horrible.
So to say the fix is dsp is just lunacy.

 

Also this isn't what I would call head in the sand.
This is more like dieing on hill.

 

Also also...just address me bro.
It's not weird until you make it weird.