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Pioneer NEX4000 review...my take on it anyways...

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#1 ·
My take on the Nex4000.

Ok so here it is a very unbias review because quite honestly...I love Pioneer! But for the life of me...I don't understand a lot of what Pioneer does! With this head unit...no exception! A lot of hype of brought over this "new" head unit...but hmmmmm...well read below.

1.) The new user interface...visually very hoaky...very cluttered now. Too many "blocks" if you ask me. Color...mostly gone. All white for much of the text including the clock. You can't change this...last years model was better. Background pictures and animated backgrounds...again very limited and you still can't upload your own animated gif for a background! Simple...but yet Pioneer still hasn't allowed you to do it...why? No idea.

2. HD Radio...no more blending option...so if you have a weak HD station...expect it to pop in and out of analog to digital mode on its own. Last years model had an over-ride...this new NEX can't do it. Bummer...step back for HD radio. Also no visual antenna or signal meter to let you know how weak or strong the signal is...last years model had it. Again bummer.

3. Bass Boost...had it right up to now on just about every Pioneer Model...the new NEX models...nope...gone. Sucks cause this was an easy way to add a little punch quickly to your music if it was lacking on a particular song. Sure you have the graphic equalizer...but who really wants to go through 2 submenus to get to it...just to bring up the bass a little? The bass boost was easier and was dedicated to the sub out channel only....cleaner. Also could of been added to a favorite for quick easy access...not anymore...see #6 below.

4. The graphic equalizer...excellent they increased the bands but Pioneer is still lacking on the higher end. The bands in the middle were increased which honestly those bands will not need much altering at all. Flat is where you want it. The higher and lower bands is where the environment of cars/trucks lack because of the general layout of a car or truck. Pioneer has done pretty well in the lower frequency range...but the higher needs help. Frequency bands should be adjustable at 6,000, 8000, 10Khz, 12khz, 14khz and 16khz. The eq also had a glitch on my NEX4000. When you selected the screen...it would get you into the eq....but you wouldn't be able to adjust anything...there was a 1 second pause then the screen would go full screen and you would be able to make adjustments...hated the screen pause/glitch.

5. 2 screens that do the same thing! The subwoofer adjustment screen and the crossover adjustment screen go to the same page. Why? who knows...makes zero sense.

6. The Favorites quick star key is now buried and to make it more difficult to use...Pioneer decided you will have to go right then left haha. Serious...this favorite quick key access was awesome up until this year. It was right on the main level...click it and boom right into your favorite presets. Not anymore. Now you click on the upper right side to get into the system settings. Next all the way over to the left side to click on the star icon to bring up the screen. Only now you can click on your favorite quick settings that are no longer so quick at all. Try doing this while driving...I know...nit picky...but hey that extra screen and going full right side screen...then left side screen just keeps your eyes off the road longer!

7. The head unit for the price they are selling it at ($700 msrp) should really come with Navigation. You would pay about the same price for your cell phone if you bought it outright... your cell comes with navigation. If Pioneer isn't going to do this...at least build the navigation into the radio and allow the users to pay a subscription for it. For me...for a lousy $20 or so a month...I would pay for it to have navigation.

8.) Connecting to your phone cables and options. All I can say is...either have this work, or not work...don't half azz it like it is now. I mean if I pay $65 or more for a connectivity kit to have my phone be able to talk to the receiver I would expect ALL of my phone to work on it...not just some basic things. Mainly again...the navigation. Whats the point of hooking my phone up if I can't use my navigation from my phone on my head unit?

For me a lot of my "nit picking" is actually pretty validated. I mean who wants to have a pleasant experience while driving and listing to their radio? Or who wants to be fumbling around menus and windows trying to find and tweak settings while driving? Not me! I don't know if the new software engineers were sitting and creating all of this and not really remembering...hey this is going into a car/truck where people will be driving!

I just hope that by this time next year a lot of these bugs will be worked out and the interfaced tweaked! If it were up to me....I would GIVE OPTIONS!!! Allow the users to setup the head unit like they would like it...Allow up to 31 bands of equalization or as little as say 5. Have it be a "professional/competition or a standard/basic" option for the eq. All the options or settings are firmware/software...it doesn't cost anything extra or take up more physical space to give us more options. There are no physical extra resistors or capacitors or chips that need to be added. Shoot if they really wanted to...they could use the same exact "box" and just change the firmware/software and boom...brand new double-dinn head unit.

Allow us to be able to upload our own jpegs for a background (pioneer allows this now) and ALSO ALLOW US TO UPLOAD SMALL ANIMATED GIF backgrounds.

Bring back the bass boost and put it into the Subwoofer Setting screen where it should be. Differentiate the subwoofer screen from the crossover screen.

Bring back color options for the text being displayed on the radio. If I want plain white...great...but at least give me the options to change it to whatever color or theme I want.

Ok so there is my review. Bottom line...it is a new head unit...but honestly, when comparing this to last years AVH-8500BHS that it replaced,...I don't see any changes at all that were increased with the NEX4000 with the exception of the equalizer which the 4000 added a few bands to it. Other then that...options were only taken away...not added. The whole hype of NEX (Networked Entertainment eXperience) to me was simply a marketing gimick to get people to be like...huh...what...oh wow...awesome new head unit. When in reality it is just the same head unit as last years with a clunkier user interface and a few more bands on the eq and less features. (If you don't believe me... go out and compare the 2 models). I actually returned my NEX4000 after encountering all the issues/bugs/limitations and got the AVH-8500BHS because it offered more. I figured might as well wait another year or 2 to see if Pioneer actually does something new and worth it to spend $550+ for a new head unit.
 
#2 ·
I considered the nex4000 and 5000. but ended up with the kenwood 5901. from just a bit of playing with the pioneer units, the menu seems a bit more streamlined. but liked the features of the kenwood better. and the 200 cheaper on the kenwood just drew me in.
I am happy with the 5901 for the most part, just have to get used to the menus
 
#3 ·
I bought one 4/30/2014 . Last Wednesday to be on point . This is my first double din HU . I picked it out , so it was not pushed on me . So here we go ....
It would be nice to be able to remove the templates , as stated very blocky .
It has this sound retrieval feature that gives a dramatic boost at 41 hz on the first setting . (Loudness feature = sound retrieval ?) Saw it in the RTA when we where tuning the Helix DSP .
Actually took me a few days to find out how to power it off . A simple power button would have been nice. The button that turns off the display would be a logical place to add this feature .
It is new to us , produces a decent signal and fit the hole in my dash .
5 volt pre out and the ability to by pass the x-overs was a big bonus .
We will live with it ....
 
#9 ·
I bought one 4/30/2014 . Last Wednesday to be on point . This is my first double din HU . I picked it out , so it was not pushed on me . So here we go ....

It would be nice to be able to remove the templates , as stated very blocky .

It has this sound retrieval feature that gives a dramatic boost at 41 hz on the first setting . (Loudness feature = sound retrieval ?) Saw it in the RTA when we where tuning the Helix DSP .

Actually took me a few days to find out how to power it off . A simple power button would have been nice. The button that turns off the display would be a logical place to add this feature .

It is new to us , produces a decent signal and fit the hole in my dash .

5 volt pre out and the ability to by pass the x-overs was a big bonus .

We will live with it ....

I had mine installed over the weekend. Haven't really had a chance to play with it too much, but the little time I had with it I enjoyed.

Is that sound retrieval on by default? If so how do you turn it off? And between turning the unit off and setting the clock I was stumped. I figured the clock out but thanks for the heads up on the powering off.



Just bought the 4000NEX but haven't installed it yet. Just got all the InCarTec installation items I need to make it work in the XC90. I decided on the 4000NEX because of the forthcoming CarPlay. I sure hope it doesn't suck.

Same here... I was gonna go with the 8000NEX. But I figured between CarPlay and my OEM Nav still functioning, it was unnecessary.


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#7 ·
Press the center button to get to your home screen. When that opens you will see the AV tab on the screen . Touch the AV tab and it will open . You will see a list of tabs including OFF . The cool thing is I added that button to my list of short cuts by dragging and dropping it to short cut list on the home screen .
I am beginning to find my way through it ...
So for so good , still liking it .
Greg
 
#8 ·
Just bought the 4000NEX but haven't installed it yet. Just got all the InCarTec installation items I need to make it work in the XC90. I decided on the 4000NEX because of the forthcoming CarPlay. I sure hope it doesn't suck.
 
#11 · (Edited)
My take on the Nex4000.



2. HD Radio...no more blending option...so if you have a weak HD station...expect it to pop in and out of analog to digital mode on its own. Last years model had an over-ride...this new NEX can't do it. Bummer...step back for HD radio. Also no visual antenna or signal meter to let you know how weak or strong the signal is...last years model had it. Again bummer.
Found the blending on/off option ...
http://youtu.be/rqPitAYEwDQ

How to - AVH-4000NEX - Use the HD Radio Tuner - YouTube
 
#12 ·
Good finds on the power button and the blending mode. I swear the engineer handling this firmware upgrade was smoking crack on the new nex receivers. The head units could of been a knock out of the ball park. Instead clunky and lots of options that were very easy to get to are now buried or gone altogether. What a shame.
 
#13 ·
There is a lot to this HU . One thing is the OFF feature is not OFF . The darn thing needs to completely power down to be in accordance to IASCA rules for testing noises . That is my only beef with it . Seems I may have to add a power switch just for this portion of testing . If the amps/processor or a combination there of stay on when the system is supposed to be off is a violation . Being that I am aware of this issue , this is something I need to get fixed . I simply cannot get caught up in that situation when I know better .
Greg
 
#15 · (Edited)
Wow! Reading this has brought disappointments.. :( I was actually heavily considering one of the NEX units and particularly the 4000. Really starting to get turned off by the double din market, but don't know if I can deal with a single din in a LS400. The prices & offerings on double din just doesn't justify. The 13 band is better than most of the competition, but would have like to see it extend below 50hz. The midrange bands are fine with me, but should have at least included 30hz. Even the older units went down to the usual Pioneer 40hz.

I've checked out the Kenwood after reading the one reply... HELL NO! That EQ is even worse and have always disliked Kenwood & JVC for their skimpiness on that aspect. The more I keep looking at these units the more I keep thinking that another 80prs or used P99 would be a more sensible choice. If not then skip to a FX-H plain jane unit combined with a processor but I'd rather keep system components to a minimum.

On a side note, is there any double din headunits that retain a power antenna from amp remote? That's something else that seems to be lacking. I'd like to keep power antenna on the LS400, but controlled by actual radio activation.
 
#17 ·
I was going to say, Alpine announced last month that they will be releasing CarPlay compatible units later this year. A unit similar to the IVE-W535HD with the CarPlay would probably be my first choice for a double din (9 band parametric, as mentioned). Of course, this is without seeing a single bit of information about the forthcoming CarPlay units from Alpine other than a press release stating that they would be released later this year.
 
#22 ·
I don't have one, but I'm not so sure that is correct. I took a look at the Alpine IVE-W535HD manual, page 77 and it does appear that if you have the genre information tagged for a track that you can search for it. Again, I don't have one in front of me, so I can not confirm.

Also keep in mind that the release of CarPlay compatible units will necessitate, at the very least, a modification to the OS/UI. If not a completely new OS/UI. Chances are there could be other changes that come with it.
 
#25 ·
After a couple of weeks using this head unit as not only a music source unit but also a dvd player . I must admit it will be staying with us . We have a helix dsp behind it for tuning the system . EQ section is not an issue with us .
The ability to category by genre/artist/albums/song is really nice . We use a zip drive for daily music listening . My wife has figured out how to search for her own music .
Pros
By-Pass cross overs
DVD play back good
5 volt pre out
File search by genre/artist/albums/song
Independent channel gain on 5 channels .R-L Mid Range R-L Mid Woofer & Sub
Decent EQ if needed
No floor noise added to the system
Upload jpg for Home screen ... Manufacturer logo
Pandora interface
Sync cell phone address book with head unit
Hard wire Remote from steering wheel controls
Cons
Just the OFF button . Would not make a hill of beans in a normal situation . We using it in IASCA SQC . Corrected with a master switch .
Screen over lay template . Would be nice to get rid of it .