Re: Living in the past - Pioneer/PPI/Image Dynamics OS Cavalier Build

Looking great so far!

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Like looking at a magazine from the '90's.Good luck with the build.

 

Thanks guys! I've made a bit more progress, just need to get a couple more steps done before I post pics.

Like looking at a magazine from the '90's..

That was my goal! This stuff has been kept in the dark wayyyy too long!

Those PPI's look good with the connectors (bridges) in place. Are you going to be able to mount them like that where they are visible?

They'll be stashed away safely 90% of the time, but displayable when I want them to be. As it's my daily driver, I didn't want there being any chance of them getting damaged in the trunk. All will be revealed soon

 

Definitely looking forward to seeing this oldschool goodness!

 

Those PPI's look good with the connectors (bridges) in place. Are you going to be able to mount them like that where they are visible?

 

Love where this build is headed, if I were to try and piece together an old school install, it would look almost exactly as shown.

Looking forward to some progress!

 

Next lot of progress! Got the mounting for the sub baffle sorted and the first part of the baffle itself done. Amp rack is all but finished now as well.

This is the lower mount. I welded 8mm nuts to some 3mm right angle steel for the baffle to bolt to. The bracket bolts to the floor via 8mm rivnuts. The crescent shaped piece of galv. is to seal off the spare wheel well. I forgot to get a shot of the top mount, but it uses 8mm rivnuts as well, diectly in to the vehicles sheetmetal.

Factory speakers went in the rubbish, and the remaining holes sealed up with 18g sheet metal urethaned in place.


Figuring out amp placement. As I mentioned earlier, I wanted to keep the amps out of the trunk to avoid any risk of damage. Luckily, there just happened to be the perfect amount of space between the sub baffle and the rear seat to squeeze them in

The amp rack is simply a piece of 18mm MDF, spaced up 18mm for the wiring to run underneath and out of sight. It's bolted to the floor using M6 rivnuts and hardware.

 

The front end is well under way too. Again, the factory speakers went in the trash. I used the OEM speaker mount as a template to fabricate some new mounts for the IDQ62's. M5 rivnuts and bolts now replace the OEM mounting screws. I do plan on replacing the MDF with HDPE in the near future.








The new mounts are 30mm thick to accommodate the monster IDQ motors. I'm going to have to recess the speakers in to the mounts however, as the door panels only just fit over the new mounts. I've got about a 1/2" between the motors and window glass then it's down as it is now, so I'm hoping that recessing them 5/16" will give me enough clearance front and back.

 

Re: Living in the past - Pioneer/PPI/Image Dynamics OS Cavalier Build

Damn! This is a legit build right here! Loving it so far!

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Re: Living in the past - Pioneer/PPI/Image Dynamics OS Cavalier Build

Damn! This is a legit build right here!

Totally

All subbed up here.

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ooooh this is definitely great!!!
yeah even the picture colors/tones looks like something from the OS 90's!!!

 

You can thank my POS iPhone4 for that! :laugh:

 

Yes! Awesome! I had the same ID Horns and midbasses in my 1995 Dodge Dakota pickup

 

Got the horn mounting halfway done. The front mounts are built and in place, just need to do the rear motor supports now. Have to modify or relocate the hood release, but other than that, it all went pretty smoothly. Motors are as far out as they can go without cutting sheetmetal.
There's a tonne of room on the drivers (RH) side, but the HVAC system on the LH side limited how far forward I could mount them, so I started with that side, and did the RH side to match.


In the first pic you can see the piece of wire I used as a guide to keep the waveguides parallel. This worked really well, as even though the dash looked reasonable level left to right, the right hand side was actually 3/4" higher than the left, and both side taper up in the centre.


They're not as high as I would have liked...going from the gas pedal to the brake pedal is awkward if I'm wearing my work boots as they hit the rear of the waveguide. Again, something that would be no issue if it were a LH drive car, but I'm sure I'll get used to it!

Also got some of the wiring run, although the power cable is proving to be difficult. If this was a LH drive car, it would be simple, but the HVAC case is right behind the firewall grommet, so feeding a big fat 4g cable though isn;t as easy as I had hoped

 

They're not as high as I would have liked...going from the gas pedal to the brake pedal is awkward if I'm wearing my work boots as they hit the rear of the waveguide. Again, something that would be no issue if it were a LH drive car, but I'm sure I'll get used to it!

Also got some of the wiring run, although the power cable is proving to be difficult. If this was a LH drive car, it would be simple, but the HVAC case is right behind the firewall grommet, so feeding a big fat 4g cable though isn;t as easy as I had hoped

My car is LH drive and I had the exact same issue in my car when I had the waveguides in with my foot hitting the horn body, even worse when wearing my work boots. I just ended up taking my boots to work and changing them there. Like where this is going. Love old school builds.

 

Kelly, you have a right hand drive car too? What is it?

Jay

 

Oops, I made a typo. I fixed it.

 

Got the first of the Arts cracked open, cleaned up and new kapton tape and thermal paste installed. I started with the A100. Felt a little bit sad breaking the warranty seal, but it's also pretty cool knowing that the last time this board saw daylight, was on the PPI bench sometime in the mid-90's!



Caps still look okay. All component solder joints look good as well.

Heatsink cleaned and kapton tape laid down

Board back in place with fresh thermal paste.

 

Ah I've found ya. Soooo tuned for this.

 

Well this is dragging on a bit longer than I had hoped, but I had a couple of weeks off over the Xmas/New Year period, and managed to get a bit more done.
The front doors, rear deck, c-pillars, wheel arches and rear quarters are now fully sound deadened. On the doors I've used Stinger Roadkill, everywhere else is a mix of Dynamat Extreme, Ratmat and unbranded CLD, just leftovers I've had from previous installs. I've used 8mm neoprene CCF over the CLD and stuffed the c-pillars and rear quarters with nylon pillow stuffing as well. It's all made a hell of a difference!

Doors got 3mm foam PVC to fill the access holes before the CLD/CCF treatments went on.



I made some covers from 3mm foam PVC to seal off where the trunk hinges come up through the rear deck.



Stuffing the c-pillars




Rear quarters/wheel arches

 

You really cladded that on well. All the best with getting the trim back together.
Where did you get the CCF from?

 

I got it off Trademe. Think it was called 8mm sound insulation from memory, was a couple of years ago now. Was about $160 for a roll I think, which was enough to do the roof & doors of my ute, the roof of a mini and this car. It's pretty good stuff for the $$$!

 

Recessed the speaker adaptors for more clearance behind the door panels and fitted M4 threaded inserts for mounting the IDQ mids. I added a 45° chamfer to the back of the adapters for a bit more breathing room as well




Got leads soldered to the mids with Deans connectors for easy removal.



Sub baffle is all done now. Two layers of 19mm MDF and one of 12mm for a total thickness of 48mm/2".


Starting on the template for the trim panel

 

I LOVE this build!! Slaying folks in a 1994 Cavalier, that is how it's done!

 

Haha, thanks man!

Slowly getting there. Got the drivers door covered in CCF and mid driver installed


The brains are in now as well. Out with the AC Delco POS and in with DEX-P1 goodness


Also featuring DJ CDX-P1210 on the 1's and 2's :laugh:

 

I see those decks pop up on eBay now again and am always intrigued.

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I'm loving this build!

 

Thanks man!

Wiring is now all completed. Managed to find the factory firewall grommet in behind the huge airbox and got the 4g cable run through it. The Stinger fuse holder is mounted to the radiator support panel with M6 rivnuts and stainless hardware.






Amp rack is now carpeted and installed for the last time and the factory plastics reinstalled. Getting so close now I can taste it!

 

this is coming along nicely!

 

i thought kapton tape was for heat resistance, not heat transfer...

 

TBH, I'm not up to play on the scientific details of the kapton tape. A good friend of mine does amplifier repair and recommended using it, plus after going through Brett/Darth SQ's PPI build, I see he's using it as well. That can't be a bad thing!

I found this build and was super excited to see the the whole thing through to the end but then there wasn't an end..I guess I'll wait..

Lol, believe me man, I'm just as disapointed as you are :laugh: I was really hoping to have it done by now, but work & family life is crazy busy so I just haven't had much spare time to work on it. It's soooo close as well!

 

I found this build and was super excited to see the the whole thing through to the end but then there wasn't an end..I guess I'll wait..

 

Got the other two amps opened up, cleaned and new kapton tape and thermal compound installed.

Found a little issue with the A200 - one of the thermistors had cracked in half. It's weird, it's almost as if it was like this from day one. The thermistor was still fully covered in thermal compound and there's no obvious signs of excessive heat anywhere







New thermistor installed



Fortunately, the A300 was more straight forward