You are crazy if you dont get the H701. You have independent control of each speaker with that thing. But I do recommend using a Alpine headunit with it. Because you will have to control the volume from the controller if you dont have one.

 

yup..pretty much what he said..

9855 = 5 band eq overall

H701 = 5 band peq (or 31 band geq) for each front and rear, left and right and 2 more bands on the subwoofer. also the ability to run a 4-way system ( 3-way front stage with sub) over a 3-way system (2-way front stage with subwoofer) with the 9855.

also more xover points and slopes as you mentioned for more flexability

 

I think whats not clear is that each speaker output (except the sub out(s)) have their own independant Parametric EQ or 31 band graphic eq that can be tuned individually. quite nice really. also you can set Time Alignment / xover / output volume for each channel individually too.. its quite nice.

 

Sounds like a really good product, but its too expensive. I would get it if it was around $200. Too bad they don't have a head unit with all those features.

 

Sounds like a really good product, but its too expensive. I would get it if it was around $200. Too bad they don't have a head unit with all those features.

Kind hard to stuff all those electronic stuff in a dinky small headunit


I think the H701 is well worth it. I bought mine and I do not regret it one bit. It has everything I need, plus a lot more. I'm barely using 1/4th of its potential.

Then again, I like my music to the fullest so I can't cheap out

 

The H700 is actually quite cheap. Compare it to other stuff with similar features you have to pay quite a lot.

 

1) I agree that the 701 offers more functionality, but is it worth the additional cost for my application - 2 way in a 2 seat convertable w/ possible addition of sub(s) later? The 701 is even more pricey than I originaly thought if I have to replace my head unit anyway.

2) Since I would seem to need an alpine headunit, what are the advantages / disadvantages of a CDA-9855 vs a DVA-9860? Can the PXA-H701 be fully controlled from the 9860 (besides auto tcr)? The 9855 looks to have a better display, but that lousy GlideTouch. If I got a 9860, would I still want the control unit? Can I get a lower end alpine deck and be able to control the 701's volume with it?

 

1) I agree that the 701 offers more functionality, but is it worth the additional cost for my application - 2 way in a 2 seat convertable w/ possible addition of sub(s) later? The 701 is even more pricey than I originaly thought if I have to replace my head unit anyway.

2) Since I would seem to need an alpine headunit, what are the advantages / disadvantages of a CDA-9855 vs a DVA-9860? Can the PXA-H701 be fully controlled from the 9860 (besides auto tcr)? The 9855 looks to have a better display, but that lousy GlideTouch. If I got a 9860, would I still want the control unit? Can I get a lower end alpine deck and be able to control the 701's volume with it?

any AI net deck can control the volume and the fader / ballance features of the PXA.. BUT only the DVA9860 and the soon to be released dva9965 along with a few of the touch screen decks support full control of the PXA...

If you are just talking about a two way active setup up front you could go with the 9855 and just use the 3way xover setup on it and have a single 5 band parametric eq, which might get the job done.. it does have individual time alignment on each speaker so you don't loose a whole lot.. (well optical transport options are gone)

 

Looks like the 9965 will have the same crossover abilites as the 9855. I may just wait for it to be released; I can always add a 701 to it later if I see the need. Thanks for all of the info!

 

If you have a convertible, I would skip the H701

 

also you don't need to use the volume on the 701. you can just put the volume on the 701 at 3/4 and use the HU volume. works either way...

 

Has anyone tried controlling the 701 through the DVA-9860? I wonder how how much hassle it would be to navigate through the menu's..?

 

There is a guy called xman415 on the sounddomain forum that has the 9860 connected and controlling the H701. You might want to ask him.

 

i have the 9860 and h701 ask away

its not that hard to navigate and tune, if youare familiar with alpine one knob tuning

the c7-1 is easier id imagine though since it has more buttons, easier access to the menus

and I never knew the h70 had a seperate volume control, as I control it all from the deck?

 

if you have the deck connected via AI Net the volume control on the RUX is defeated provided everything is working correctly. The head unit will then control the volume.

Also I have the 9860 controling the H701 and it is pretty easy to use after about 5 minutes of tinkering with it. I prefer to use the remote as it is much faster (the A.Proc button makes it easy to use) i highly suggest using the remote to make changes.

 

IMHO,

Its not hard at all to navigate through the 9860/H701 once you get used to it. <it should take about 10 mins at most to figure it out without the manual!

 

wow you use the remote to tune??

man I never enen thought of that LOL
guess I need to read the manual again for those control options

I have never even used the remote--I dont like the credit card feel of it

 

It would depend on how much processing your system needs. I'm still caught up with the oldschool thinking of installing and tuning first(without eq), then add processing if needed. If you have installed your gear pretty well, you will only need very minimal or no processing at all...the 9855 is already enough in most cases. I remember John Yi in my thread before in ECA telling me that if you need more than 5 bands of parametric eq, you should check your install.

I would suggest maximizing the install and tuning with the 9855. If you need more processing, then get the h701 combo.

 

It would depend on how much processing your system needs. I'm still caught up with the oldschool thinking of installing and tuning first(without eq), then add processing if needed. If you have installed your gear pretty well, you will only need very minimal or no processing at all...the 9855 is already enough in most cases. I remember John Yi in my thread before in ECA telling me that if you need more than 5 bands of parametric eq, you should check your install.

I would suggest maximizing the install and tuning with the 9855. If you need more processing, then get the h701 combo.

Fully agree. It's only necessary if you make it necessary.

A 9835 or 9855 has all you would ever need IMO.

-aaron

 

yeah man, the remote makes it much easiear to tune from the back seat if I am using an RTA to tune..

I hate the remote, the buttons are too small and its too light / thin for my tastes.. plus it gets lost under seats easy. but for tuning its much easier than punching the deck. also I prefer it to touching the deck a bunch and messing up the face...

 

The eq in an 9855/53 (apart from beeing noisy) is too limited to tame most car´s interiors, they do get you a fair way. If I was building a small system on a budget I´d go for the 9855. If I was building somehting that I was to pay for and use I go for the H701 and if money was no object the F1.

Don´t understand the comment on no need for an H701 in a convertible, if there is any kind of vehicle that needs an eq like this with presets, it a rag top.

Oh, we have one car that we tune with the remote. But that car has about 6 feet from the dashboard to the front seats.

 

Sounds like the 9860/H701 combo is a pretty good buy. I like the idea of only having on display in the dash. Also none of that flip-face crap i have to deal with now. (CDA-7995)