Nick Wingate, ORCA's technical trainer told me the zero line is still their top dog. That said, the pro line is more like a higher end sq amp made sweet love to a great solutions based amplifier, and the pro line are the children. Great amps, plenty of power, no noise, can bypass the preamp section, WHILE also having options that make sense for your typical and even some above-typical installs.

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For the size & sound quality......they would be (and were) my pick. I’m sure the Zero’s are “better” but dammit they’re huge.


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@jimmydee which amp did you end up going with? How are you liking your choice?

 

I bought a Mosconi PRO 5/30 and a PRO 4/10.

 

Awesome!

 

Thump!

 

Here's a bit of an update, since I did end-up buying the Mosconi PRO amps...

I can't comment on the Mosconi Zero amps with any real authority, as I've never personally owned them.
But I have heard them in a number of other folk's vehicles... and they are pure awesomeness.
Huge power. Like, LOADS of power. But also huge in size (probably their only drawback).
If someone had the space for them (and the alternator / battery to feed them), then I would absolutely recommend them.

As for the Mosconi PRO amps;
I've had them for about 8 or 9 months now... and they are good. REALLY GOOD.

To be honest; they might be the first amplifier I've owned, that I really have no complaints about... even to this day.
They just do everything right (everything that they're intended to do).

They are dead quiet (zero noise floor), with more than enough power to drive my system.
The sound is absolutely beautiful. A warmer tone than my previous MMATS had, but very precise (like the MMATS was).

In my opinion; Mosconi has hit a 'home run' with this line of amplifiers.
I combined the 5/30 and the 4/10 to drive my entire system, and it sounds INCREDIBLE.

PRO 5/30:
90 watts @ 4 ohm - to each tweeter (Focal TBM)
185 watts @ 4 ohm - to each midbass (W800-NEO)
660 watts @ 4 ohm - to the sub (Mille 2500.3)

PRO 4/10:
120 watts @ 4 ohm - to each midrange (Esotar 430)
120 watts @ 4 ohm - to the rear fill (Audiofrog GB)

And they look sexy too:

 

Whyd you dump the mmats?

 

Nice write up!

 

I think that other than you need to be careful with them bc they’re built to look and sound beautiful(they do both) they’re as jimmy dee mentioned a homerun for Mosconi. I’ve had my pro 4/10 for 2 months almost now and I love it. I’ve got a 5/30 that I’ve never had the chance to listen to.

also agree with him about most on the Zero although I’ve never personally owned one. I have heard a zero 4 and it sound amazing with a ton of power. It isn’t that much larger than the pro 5/30 in reality. The 5/30 is longer by 50mm the zero 4 is wider by 45mm. If you don’t need a sub channel and 4 satellites to power I’d go with the Zero 4 personally over the Pro 5/30. I’ve kicked myself for a couple weeks now not going that route

 

I have heard a zero 4 and it sound amazing with a ton of power. It isn’t that much larger than the pro 5/30 in reality

It isn't much larger than the 5/30... but with a Zero; you need to add another full amp to run a sub.

That's where the PRO benefits in size.
It incorporates a 4-channel Class A/B for the front stage, and a Class D for the sub, all in one chassis.

But you already know this...

 

I'm using a pro 530, with hybrid active Focal KX fronts and a Raven sub and the sound is surreal. I have had the opportunity as a professional in the field to listen to a wide variety of amplifier/speaker combos and the Pro series is simply worth it. With a d-class frame on an ab-architecture, I truly believe that Mosconi knocked it out of the SQ park. People listen to my set up and can't believe the amount of mid-bass that I have on deck, and I attribute it to a kickass warm amp and a fair amount of sound dampening in the doors. If this line of amplifiers were priced in the sub $600 range instead of the $1000 range, they wouldn't be able to keep them in stock. Every single sound room demo, I rotate between JL's HD line, the Mosconi Pro line and any other high end line and people are like, "oh yeah, go back to the first one." This is honestly, the first amp series that I'm 100% all about, and that's even taking into account of JL's bleh D-class, gotta-plug-in-a-computer-to-make-it-worth-it-"VX" line.

 

I’d also like to know since I’m considering buying some mmats and i have a jl hd600/4 new in the box, is it worth using or pass it along and get something different.

 

I don’t have anything for experience with the mmats but I do have a Pro 4/10 and it replaced a JL HD 600/4. The Pro 4/10 does sound a tad warmer but it’s definitely not a huge improvement imo to my ears over the JL HD amps fwiw

 

I can't comment on whether the MMATS is better than the JL HD amp, since I have limited experience with the JL.
I will say that the MMATS is an exceptional Class D amplifier (arguably the best Class D currently available).

I will also say that; to my ear, the Mosconi PRO is a nicer sounding amp than the MMATS.
Just my opinion... I prefer the sound of an A/B amp on my front stage.

 

That’s good to know. I was thinking about finding another hd600 so everything matched.

 

Ive been looking to put together some amps and a dsp that match cosmetically aswell, what would yall do with $4000>? I wanna do a 3-way active or 2-way+rearfill and a sub.

 

I read erin’s review of them from a long time ago and they seemed good but I’m sure a lot has changed in 10 yrs.

 

Right now if I had $4000 I would put it on my Line of Credit lol

Would you prefer an external DSP, or perhaps be willing to get that built into your amp(s)?
Seeing as you appear to be concerned with how the final product will look, perhaps we can narrow down what you like the look of ... of these three options, which do yoo prefer cosmetically?

JL Audio VXi series

Zapco Z-II series

Mosconi Pro series

Everyone has their own tastes ...

 

JL amps look sexy but the Italian amps are by far the best looking imo. Also for top sq most say get separate dsp and amp rather than built in

 

Is the $4000 for amps and dsp only or entire system?

 

If you’re spending $4000 on amps and a dsp I’d go 2 Helix C FOUR and do a L/R setup and a Helix P ONE for sub then whichever dsp you want from helix depending on the channels needed

 

Lol I think you were joking but It needs ventilation yes. I don’t think I’d mount it there and I’ve learned to try and keep it closest to amps as possible although not completely necessary. If you do you can run shorter RCAs this way and this helps in a lot of cases with noise floor and cost

 

Hi all I know this thread is about 8 months old but I wanted to just reach out to the group to see if the Mosconi Pros are still performing the way you hoped?
I am looking at adding a Pro 4/10 to run my mids and rear fill like Jimmy Dee.
I do have a zero 4 and it is one amazing amp but yes size is its enemy. Right now it is running my from midbass and tweeters and my mids and read fill are running of a Hertz HDP 4 which is a great amp but not the same caliber as the Mosconi.
I have 2 Gladen XL250 that i was wanting to incorporate but I don't have enough room on my amp rack so that is where the Pro 4/10 would come into play
Any feedback on your Mosconi Pro 4/10 would be appreciated.

 

I love the Pro’s…running a 1/10, 2/10 and 4/10 now and about to add another sub and 1/10. You won’t be disappointed.

 

Thats sounds like a nice set up. Thanks for the feedback. My problem now as I have built up my system over time as I focus on the front stage is that my subs and Sub amp are not keeping up as I am a bass head.
My speakers are all Morel and my 2 12" primo subs are powered by a Hertz HDP 1 at 1,000 watts 2 ohm but one of my next upgrades will likely be new subs and I am very intrigued by the MMatt's Amps to run my next set of subs. This thread talked about the Mmatts amp as full range but not as sub amps. I have read a lot of good things about the MMatt's so that will likely be my next sub amp

 

I’ve just swapped from a zapco ap 6 Channel to a pair of 4/10 pros, I can honestly say my €80 a pair silk dome cheapo tweeters have never sounded so good! (I have bliesma berylliums and silks to go in… and have tested a fair few sets of tweeters, so I’m no stranger to a decent tweeter) but these may actually end up staying yet as they have been transformed, and the mid seems wider on the left as well now, most odd, but I’m putting the width down to better stereo seperation from seperate left and right amps, but the treble is definitely an odd ball, it’s like I’ve upgraded the tweeters, perhaps it’s a different freq response, I’ve not measured it yet to see what the difference is exactly, I’m sure it can be explained one way or another 👍🏼

 

I’ve just swapped from a zapco ap 6 Channel to a pair of 4/10 pros, I can honestly say my €80 a pair silk dome cheapo tweeters have never sounded so good! (I have bliesma berylliums and silks to go in… and have tested a fair few sets of tweeters, so I’m no stranger to a decent tweeter) but these may actually end up staying yet as they have been transformed, and the mid seems wider on the left as well now, most odd, but I’m putting the width down to better stereo seperation from seperate left and right amps, but the treble is definitely an odd ball, it’s like I’ve upgraded the tweeters, perhaps it’s a different freq response, I’ve not measured it yet to see what the difference is exactly, I’m sure it can be explained one way or another [emoji1360]

Sounds like we need an ABX amp test - Richard Clark style


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I learn something everyday. I had never heard of the ABX Amp Test so I have been googling it.......interesting!!!
Where I am in Canada High End brands are not generally stocked so listening tests are not a option. I have accessed a Pro4/10 as well as Audiofrog speakers which I am considering to replace my Morel's.
Thanks again for all the help.