With how much people love the helix dsp's I'm sure this will be top notch when available.

Love the idea of optical out too. Would be able to finally utilize all of the brax amps features

 

I would think that if something were forthcoming in 2016, we might get a glimpse or announcement in January at CES?

 

This is the email I got back on December 4th, from one of the head guys over at Audiotec Fischer in regard to the BRAX DSP.

"Dear Sir,

the BRAX DSP has been postponed to an unknown release date due to other projects.

Regards,
Robin Krichel"

*As soon as it is available, I am getting one.

 

Probably never, Brax is not a big seller for them,lower grade is.
DSP pro with extensions is as good as it gets, simply rebadging it would be their way to reach Brax nuthuggers.

 

Where there's a will there's a way. My friend who mods electronics says it's pretty easy to convert to optical.

 

Single toslink strand is good for 5.1 why would anyone need separate toslink for each ch?
I'm trying to understand the problem.

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The Toslink optical output on the Helix DSP-Pro is only a 2 channel stereo output. I believe it is configurable as Channels 1 & 2 of the DSP output.
I'm looking for 8 or 10 channels of independent optical output. The same as the RCA outputs, only optical.

Anyways, I don't want to get hung-up on what the current Helix unit can (or can't) do. I was just wondering if anyone had updated info on the proposed Brax unit.
Seems as though Brax has designed amplifiers, with the intent of driving them optically with a new DSP... but then abandoned the DSP project.

 

Convention from spdif to toslink is a piece of cake.your friend is correct

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I am listening!!!

 

From business stand point I understand their decision. Investing chunk of cash in possible sell of 1000 units around the globe is bad business.
I've heard rumors that brax brand will be sold to China and only Helix and match will remain. So them cleaning development makes perfect sense.


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I've heard rumors that brax brand will be sold to China and only Helix and Match will remain.

Sadly, I've heard this rumor too...

 

say it isn't so

 

I say "amen" when I hear a pray so I say "amen" brother.

 

Ffffffffffffffffffffff.....

I've been dumping massive amounts of loot in making my R1 track prepped. I guess I'll have to swing the Brax amps for my subs within the next couple of months and run another brand for my mids/highs because there is no way I can financially stretch all of it that quickly.

Not happy about this, but I'm really happy I know this sooner than later. Thx guys.

 

Since the DSP's are typically mounted very close to the amplifiers anyway, I don't necessarily see the need for the optical over such a short distance. It's going to have to have a D/A conversion either at the DSP or amplifier level so 3 foot (or less) RCA's from the DSP Pro to the inputs of the Brax should be more than fine...no?

 

and with fiber i think it has to be atleast 3ft long and you cant bend it at more than a 90 angle or you will break the core. so if your in with tight space fiber doesnt make sense

 

I hope this thing is....

1) Able to slave other Brax DSP's for extra channels.
2) Is DTS Neural capable for all channels.
3) Uses a high quality DSP chip (like the Texas Instraments one Bewith used to use) for a vast step up in SQ vs their Helix offering.

If they do all these three things, plus include everything the Helix DSP Pro already does, I will be one very happy guy.

 

I hope this thing is....

1) Able to slave other Brax DSP's for extra channels.
2) Is DTS Neural capable for all channels.
3) Uses a high quality DSP chip (like the Texas Instraments one Bewith used to use) for a vast step up in SQ vs their Helix offering.

If they do all these three things, plus include everything the Helix DSP Pro already does, I will be one very happy guy.

 

Also, where did this thread come from and why was it revived? I have never seen or heard any talk of a brax dsp except for this thread

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It's coming. Heinz Fischer was telling competitors about it at the last EMMA Finals.


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Well ****.. I wonder when we will hear about it. Wasn't there also rumors of brax closing it's doors?

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I have no idea where that rumor came from.


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im in serious debate upgrading from my 360.3, would you guys suggest waiting for this "new" dip coming available or purchasing the Heli dsp / dsp pro?

 

I doubt this will be out anytime soon. I'd just get the helix

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I think newer Honda and Acura HU's comes with DTS Neural. Not sure why aftermarket products are so hesitant to add this feature.

 

What i am hoping for is a processor that has optical outputs for each left and right channel. Left and right info per optical is feasible.
Looking at my MX4`s and MX2 amp. Each amp has optical inputs per side(s).
The ideal situation would be optical from the source to the processor. Then from the processor to the amps.

The amps have already been built to accept the optical inputs. Pretty stoked to say the least.

My amps have optical inputs. All 3 of them.


Center channel DTS... Alpine H900 has the capabilities and it was over looked. H800 is currently on the market. Who is using the processor for DTS with a center channel ? Not many . AI-NET went by the way side. F1 Status also got shelved . Alpine has very deep pockets. Deeper then most companies.

The problem we have working on the sales floor is this.
Selling this package to consumers is hard to say the least. Deck and four keep the installers working and making a pay check. Big builds just do not happen often. Selling that many speakers, processor and amps is not an everyday sell.
It is about money, making money and selling a product. End of story !!

DTS, Alpine H800 has it already. As a consumer I suggest you buy one and give it a go. We still have one installed in the family car, unless it is DTS encoded from the source, you do not reap the benefits of a center channel.
No DTS encoded media, no center channel.
I work in this industry, I listen to installers, business owners and consumers.

Very hard to sell a center channel processor, speakers, amps. parts , fabrication and labor. This has to happen like a revolving door, or it will not work.
Business model will simply not work.

The Brax Processor will possibly be something geared to a two channel stereo system. Something that will work with the platform that has been established. Their MX amplifier line.


This is just my humble opinion.

 

My hope is that any new DSP product coming to market would begin to close the gap in functionality between car DSP and pro-audio DSP.

Things like:

Much more delay. Car DSPs typically have 15ms delay possible, which is less than half of what's necessary for rear fill. I want 30+ ms, at minimum.
Pro DSPs usually have several full seconds of delay possible.

Separate EQ for input side and output side. The Helix Pro offers this now, but it only works on the analog inputs and it's only a 5 band parametric. Pro audio DSPs usually have a full 31 band on the input side, with 8 or 10 band on the output side.

FIR filters. Linear phase crossovers.
And make sure they have enough taps to do bass range filters with decent resolution.

 

Out now


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Out now

????

 

Looks like it’s available to order from authorized dealers? Here is the order form posted on their Facebook page.

 

Fake news until we hear it from Audiotec Fischer Germany.


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It has been unofficially available to order for a short bit now. But yes, it is now fully available. The Singapore guys always post before the official page does. Idk why.

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Any word on if it features their center channel algorithm?

 

I need software to test drive.

 

Any word on if it features their center channel algorithm?

Yes

I need software to test drive.

It's the same software from what I understand, just a few things are different.

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There is a new software update for it, but mostly just to include the Brax processor and a new screen to make adjustments to items specific to that model.

All of the new signal processing algorithms are included including “RealCenter” bass enhancement and stage expander.

The DSP is available and they are being made as soon as they are ordered.