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Speaker Cables Humming Noise Need Help

5.8K views 17 replies 7 participants last post by  Holmz  
#1 ·
Setup
Kia Niro Hybrid (Gen 2)
Apline Halo9
Zapco HDSP-Z8 V
Zapco AP Amp
Focal Utopia M 3-way Speakers + Sub at the rear
QED Signature RCA
Kimber Kable 12TC Speaker Cables

DSP & Amps are at the rear in the spare tire compartment.

Background
Originally my setup was running on a loan Zapco HDSP-Z16 V DSP with cheapo silver-plated 2-core stranded speaker wires throughout.
When the Zapco HDSP-Z8 V arrived, my installer swapped it out and replaced my speaker cables with Kimber Kable. There's no change to the path that the speaker cables are being routed.
While my installer doing the tuning, there's a humming sound from the speakers when the music is not playing. The music will drown the humming noise when play loud enough.

Investigation
After some troubleshooting by my installer, it's confirmed that the speaker cable is the cause of the humming noise.
Per my hybrid car design, the lithium batteries are located at the bottom of the passenger seat so the humming might be the workings of the batteries as the speaker cables pass thru them, so it's speaker cables picking up the noise from the batteries.

Potential Solutions
Changing the speaker cables (again) is out of the questions.
I read that using shielding products from MuMetal will help.
Spira-Shield Flexible Conduit from Magnetic Shield Corp may be another alternative solution.

As I'm not from USA, getting these products and find out that it don't work will be a waste of my money so does anyone has any experience with these products?

Is there anyone who have a solution to my problem?
My installer is clueless as this is the first time he experience it on a speaker cable, which he think might be due to "poor/thin" insulation of individual core thus picking up the noise from the batteries. He installed similar Kimber Kable with similar setup on another non-hybrid Jap car and he did not encounter this problem.
 
#2 ·
I don't see kimber ever adding noise to a system unless it's got a hole in the jacket and it's physically touching something. It's braided so it wants to reject noise. How did the installer verify it's the speaker cable? Kimber cabke is sweet but I've never tried it in a car before.
Edit. I've ran kimber next to ac power lines in walls tons of times, (sometimes it's unavoidable) and never had it pick up even a hint of noise.
 
#4 ·
I was told by my installer that he did isolation and with only the amp powered, the humming is there. Any change in amp gain does not change the humming, which eliminate the input source.

The humming is very soft and it sounds like mosquito buzzing.

I did some googling and there's a possibility of DC noise getting into the speaker cables.

I'm interested to try Spira-Shield Flexible Conduit but do not whether will it affect the sound as some people mentioned that some type of shielding will have impact on sound.
 
#5 ·
Hmm. Is the wire movable? Like can you wiggle it where it's ran and see if the noise changes. Does it do it on all your Amp channels? Try unhooking 1 speaker wire at a time and see if it disappears on all channels. Maybe 1 has a nic in it and is cause everything to have noise. I'm stumped just throwing out ideas to narrow it down.
 
#8 ·
It's highly unlikely that your speaker wire is picking up noise, it's much more likely that the RCA's or some other component is picking up noise. Although it's not impossible, speaker level signal is high voltage, and you shouldn't have issues with speaker wires picking up noise. I wouldn't be so quick to believe that's the issue. If a wire is grounding out even slightly, then that's a different story. Make sure that the wire is terminated correctly at both ends, and that there's no way it's being pinched, or cut somewhere, pay close attention to where the wire passes through a door, or some other tricky spot.
 
#10 ·
Batteries also do no have AC magnetic fields nor electric fields.

He mentioned the headlight switch a while back, so I thought the Mu metal etc was out the window?
 
#14 ·
Thanks guys for all the input.

My ride is current going thru the run-in period so once the sound get "stabilized" my ride will go back into the workshop for another round of sound tuning and I'll have my installer to check for any nick or tear on the cables.

Will putting on Braided Cable Sleeve help?
 
#17 ·
The easiest way to rule out the speaker wire is to disconnect it all from the amp and run a short piece of speaker wire to a hand held speaker.

Also 8tc speaker wire is not going to sound any different in your car than any other standard wire, plus as pointed out it will be much more prone to nicking the jacket which will then ground the amp to the car and sent it into protect mode.