Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

Doors:

Here's the world's most useless windows, whose space will be occupied by the sail panel pods, once complete:

Moving to the midbass location. The stock Bose midbasss units are a good size (8"), but VERY shallow.

Behind the driver is this piece, which I was sure will reflect sound back at the driver, but worse, reduces available depth to just over 2", which won't do.

So, Rich thinks he knows more than German engineers and cuts the damn thing out to give us ~3-5/8" of mounting depth to work with. But now, the bottom of the window track is unsupported. It didn't seem to be that big of a deal while putting the window up and down, but it also rattles when you shut the door like an 80's Chrysler. Following the K.I.S.S. principle, I used a few bolts, spacers, and a bit of aluminum strap to make a support for the window track. Alles güt.

I didn't take photos of the CLD tiles going in, but there's a bunch of it on the outer door skin (in addition to the factory stuff), some on the plastic door panel that seals up the door nicely, and more on the back side of the door card, probably 8 per door.
I'd like to do some MLV between the card and the panel, but the door card is anything but flat, and I don't think I'd be able to get it in there. We shall see if Nick has other ideas come install time.

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

nice midbass choice! no mucking around there..

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

nice midbass choice! no mucking around there..

Both Nick and I really wanted to do the Audio Development W800neo, but I've blown the budget bad enough as-is. Nick assured me that the Scan's will still kick ass, and save us a bunch of cash.
Worst case, they're probably the easiest thing to upgrade in the future if the bug bites me. Changing the mids and tweets? Not so much, so we figured let's do something top-notch from the get-go. Pay more, cry once...

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

"This will be the first vehicle I've ever owned that I won't be modifying." Yeah, that didn't last.

lol

thanks to my new favorite crack dealer, Nick from Apicella Auto Sound, AKA SkizeR. Nick saw that I was looking for a Mobridge DA3, and offered his assistance. That's where things have gone horribly wrong for my budget (originally $2k), and wonderfully right for everything else.

lol

So, Rich thinks he knows more than German engineers and cuts the damn thing out.

and double lol :laugh::laugh:

glad to see it coming along

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

This will.be awesome to see !


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Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

damn german cars lol. Those 8" scan discovery mids are excellent in my opinion. especially mating them with the FROGS. i use the discovery 8s at home in a 3 way

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

Gutting the hatch - So far so good - I only broke one tab from a panel! Got most of the pieces removed I'll need in order to run wiring, and that was a nerve-racking experience.. Installed some riv-nuts for the power distribution blocks, and will be doing the same for the amps.

Also laid out the amps. My car had a sensor/box mounted RIGHT where one of the amps needed to sit that I hadn't seen in any of the Touareg builds - I'm not sure what it's for, perhaps the auto-leveling headlights? In a stroke of good fortune, there was lots of extra wiring length, so I was able to simply relocate it rearward about 6", and it's now secured beside the metal brace for the cargo floor. Seemed to work just fine on my trip last weekend, and no codes in the computer.

It's tweaking my OCD to have one of the amps flipped around, but the wiring will be much tidier this way... I'll probably end up flipping the ST-500 to match the orientation of the ST-6X and deal with the wiring, but since they're going to be completely hidden anyway, I don't feel the logo on both being "upside down" is a big deal.

Oh, lookie, here's the super-duper Blose sub. There's LOTS of room to work in there. Even though it's a 'phase 2' idea, getting a .55 cu.ft. enclosure in there should be NO problem. I hope we can even get it completely behind the trim panel and just modify the grille opening to be larger.. That should keep it very stock-looking and not affect cargo-carrying at all! (Hell, there's enough room for a more conventional 12" sub in there, but the SI BM mkV will be cake)

Look at all this room! (Added a little piece of CLD I had left over, since I was in there anyway)

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

I've been away from home a lot lately, so I haven't gotten much done, but this past weekend was beautiful outside, so I locked myself in the garage!

First, I tapped into the constant 12v+ and ground leads on the Bose amp to power the DA3 - soldered into the wiring and added the weather-pack connector you see here, wrapped in some Tesa tape to match the OEM wiring. You can see the orange MOST 'wire' above.

Speaking of the DA3, I mounted it in the rear corner on the passenger's side. There's a trap door for access to this area conveniently (the emergency release for the fuel filler is in here), so the USB port and valet switch will be easy to access. It's mounted to a piece of HDPE, and conveniently enough, there were 3 threaded holes already in the car. I wrapped the RCA's with some Tesa tape too just in case one of them wanted to loosen up.

Up front, the battery is under the driver's seat which was a blessing (don't have to go through the firewall) and a curse (royal PITA to get to). You can see the wide wiring channel the factory thoughtfully provided towards the bottom of the picture.. this runs from the firewall, under the front seat, and to the rear seat. I took advantage of this and ran the speaker and power wiring in it.

With everything buttoned back up, the main fuse holder is accessible through this factory opening in the carpet. (The plugs for the driver's seat wiring are right in that area)

With the cargo area floor installed, the whole system will be hidden, but I really wanted to try my best to make this look presentable since it's a <1 minute procedure to expose all of it, and didn't want Nick to shake his head when he sees it in person. My goal was for him NOT to feel the need to point out "Customer did the wiring!" (He probably will anyway)
I don't think the ST-500 amp is crooked - I'm not sure why it looks this way in the photos.

With the floor in place, all that's really visible is the + distribution block - not that I've ever had to change one of the fuses, but I wanted it accessible.
Nick really could have done some cool stuff under here if that dang DEF tank wasn't in there! (But I won't trade the MPG or torque of the diesel to not have the tank!)

Moment of truth.. Power everything on, no magic smoke released. That's a good start! Connect the laptop to the DA3 and... It's alive, despite Mobridge saying it's not compatible. Pretty cool that the "surround on/off" in the factory head unit (selectable on a per-source basis) toggles between 2 presets on the DA3. That might be useful!

So once I get the SI MKV sub (hopefully in the 2nd week of May...pretty please!), it's basically ready for Nick to work his magic up front and tune it to perfection!

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

Dropped off the car with Nick this past weekend (not to mention he REALLY went out of his way to get me out of a jam with the rental car! Thanks again!), now it's time for the magic..

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

Dropped off the car with Nick this past weekend (not to mention he REALLY went out of his way to get me out of a jam with the rental car! Thanks again!), now it's time for the magic..

He's good dude. He answers all dumb questions I text him.


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Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

And shes all wrapped up!

copy and pasted from elsewhere..

Rich recently contacted me about doing some work in his newly acquired Porsche Cayenne. Turns out, Rich used to be an installer back in the day and left all the messy work to us.

In this car we installed a pair of Audible Physics NZ3AlBe wideband driver in sail panel enclosures, and Scanspeak Discovery 8's in the doors (sorry, no pictures of those). To be honest, ive always been weary of using wideband drivers in customers cars due to the fact that they can be a bit picky, unforgiving, and unpredictable vs a traditional 3 way setup. This is my second wideband setup done here at the shop and my first time ever using the NZ3AlBe and i have to be say, im very happy with how it all turned out and how it sounded. I highly recommend these NZ3AlBe drivers.

Rich installed the Mobrige DA-3 (heads up, you will need an external bluetooth piece to handle calls since this car is not fully supported), Zapco ST-6X SQ, Zapco ST-500xmii, And SI BM MKIV.

This car did not come with any sort of sail panel. These had to be fabricated from scratch. here we are taking a mold of the small triangle window area where it meets the door panel.

Here we have the baffle for the Audible Physics NZ3AlBe

Molds pulled and trimmed, and baffles aimed and secured

A trim ring to cover the NZ3 mounting flange and hardware

Done and installed. Eventually added some grill cloth to the back of the trim ring to hide the drivers better.

A little edit on the first finished photo

And my personal favorite photo.. i think hes a happy camper

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

And shes all wrapped up!



copy and pasted from elsewhere..



Rich recently contacted me about doing some work in his newly acquired Porsche Cayenne. Turns out, Rich used to be an installer back in the day and left all the messy work to us.



In this car we installed a pair of Audible Physics NZ3AlBe wideband driver in sail panel enclosures, and Scanspeak Discovery 8's in the doors (sorry, no pictures of those). To be honest, ive always been weary of using wideband drivers in customers cars due to the fact that they can be a bit picky, unforgiving, and unpredictable vs a traditional 3 way setup. This is my second wideband setup done here at the shop and my first time ever using the NZ3AlBe and i have to be say, im very happy with how it all turned out and how it sounded. I highly recommend these NZ3AlBe drivers.



Rich installed the Mobrige DA-3 (heads up, you will need an external bluetooth piece to handle calls since this car is not fully supported), Zapco ST-6X SQ, Zapco ST-500xmii, And SI BM MKIV.

This car did not come with any sort of sail panel. These had to be fabricated from scratch. here we are taking a mold of the small triangle window area where it meets the door panel.

Here we have the baffle for the Audible Physics NZ3AlBe

Molds pulled and trimmed, and baffles aimed and secured

A trim ring to cover the NZ3 mounting flange and hardware

Done and installed. Eventually added some grill cloth to the back of the trim ring to hide the drivers better.

A little edit on the first finished photo

And my personal favorite photo.. i think hes a happy camper

Top notch as usual...


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Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

Looking REALLY nice.

I can't tell from the pics, did you mount the left and right NZ3 drivers at different angles (axis to the driver)??

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

Looking REALLY nice.

I can't tell from the pics, did you mount the left and right NZ3 drivers at different angles (axis to the driver)??

Both aimed at headrest level between the two seats

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Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

Your sail panels are a work of art...pure and simple. And this one is the best one yet. slow clap!!!

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

Your sail panels are a work of art...pure and simple. And this one is the best one yet. slow clap!!!

thanks!

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

HAWT DAMN! Too bad you are clear across the nation from me.

 

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Nick
What else can I say that hasn't already been said...looks like they came with the high end car...stellar work...

To the guy that said about him being across the country he has had cars shipped in....costly? Hell yes! The work that's done by nick PRICELESS!

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

Nick
What else can I say that hasn't already been said...looks like they came with the high end car...stellar work...

To the guy that said about him being across the country he has had cars shipped in....costly? Hell yes! The work that's done by nick PRICELESS!

I'll remember that last part when I write up your estimate tonight

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Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

Beautiful Work...what was the power distribution with the Zapco6SQ?

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

Beautiful Work...what was the power distribution with the Zapco6SQ?

He bridged channels 3&4 / 5&6 to give more power to the 8's.

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

Those look so good!

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

That work is impressive Nick!

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

I wish I had you down here to do those widebanders in my sails

 

Re: 2016 Porsche Cayenne diesel build thread (Audiofrog, ScanSpeak, SI, Zapco, & Skiz

Nick knocked it out of the park, kept me in the loop the whole time, and delivered on schedule (which was important, because I put a LOT of miles on this car). It's my first 'modern' system with a DSP and just..wow. As someone who's had Klipsch speakers at home with plenty of amp behind them for 20 years, I'm used to loud. This system gets loud but stays SO clean and clear while doing so! It feels like it never runs out of capability.
More than being dynamic, I'm also really enjoying finding things in the music I hadn't heard so clearly before, and even listening to a few tracks I wouldn't have previously, just because it sounds so damn good to my ears.

It was important for the the sail panels to look damn good because that's what I see every time I get in the car, and they truly do. They're as appealing to the eye as they are to the ear.

Thanks again Nick!

 

Beautiful install for sure!

 

Thanks! The car is going up for sale this summer - I hope to find a buyer that will appreciate the system as well as the car!

 

Hey Eskimo, Skizer install looks great, I have a 2013 cayenne and am planning my install now - I come here to look at these pics frequently and admire it! You mentioned moving a sensor where you mounted the amps, I have the same. It's just glued down? Want to move mine too since it's in such an inconvenient place. Everything still ok after you moved it? Thanks!

 

You mentioned moving a sensor where you mounted the amps, I have the same. It's just glued down?

I honestly can't remember, but it certainly wasn't a big deal to move, and I never had any issues with the car at all, so I guess it's fine in its new home.

 

As far as I know it’s just glued

 

Hey guys, I got everything installed but what I assume to be the remote wire is always hot. The most 25 connector remote out is also always hot. Where did you guys source a remote wire?

 

Actually, just confirmed the MOST25 remote out just turned off after like ten minutes. I'll probably use that but is that the same that you guys used? Weird that it stays on for so long.

 

Actually that's a no-go as the signal drops every few seconds from the MOST25 remote out. Drops from 11.8 to 0 periodically. Not sure if it's faulty or what.

And sorry to keep spamming your thread. Just wondering what you used for a remote out.