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IDMAX 12 vs. JL12w6v2????

13K views 25 replies 10 participants last post by  Lanson  
#1 ·
I currently have a JL12w6v2 pushed by a kicker700.5(sub channel) in a JL spec sealed box. It sounds good,hits all the notes,good SQ. Lately I have been thinking about selling it and trying a 12"IDMAX. I have never heard one in person. From reading the net they seem to get fairly loud and stay clean.What you guys think,get the IDMAX or keep the JL? (I plan to use the kicker to run the IDMAX)
 
#6 ·
low lows require lots of power,

when your sub wants to play some low lows (move the cone back and forwards slowly with control) its unable to do it with authority because your amp doesnt have big enought b@llz,

see if you can get 800+ wrms on you jl, im sure that will make you happy.

lots of big amps out there cheap
 
#9 ·
till this day the idmax 12 is the best sub i've ever heard and does very well off just 500rms. really it's a preference issue, but according to a very reliable source (mr. marv) you'll be better off with the w6v2 as far as the LOWS go.
 
#10 ·
#11 ·
The LOWS are all about displacement, get as much as you can and equalize the hell out of it:D Big Sealed with lots of Polyfill or Huge and tuned to 28hz (equalize any peaks out, if required) should appease you.

(2) RSS390HFs? Fi Q15...Q18:eek: ?

Sell your W6 and buy something along those lines, with the proper amount of equalization I'm sure you will achieve the LOWS you desire.
 
#18 ·
I wish someone would please disprove this myth. If you don't get the extra low end extension and you don;t want to buy more power, then a ported box is the way to go. I have heard plenty of clean and tight ported boxes. The JLW6 has all the right components to do well in a ported box tuned very low IMO.
 
#14 ·
would you let me know what size box the JL is in? What does JL use?

Try the JL sub in a test on WinISD, and see what it takes to get .707qtc. (Or I will do it for you, if you like)

My Eclipse LMT gets very, very low, but requires a lot of power. It also needs 1.7 cubes of space to do it. (Thats the 10" version)... There are a few subs that can run nice and low, but they usually require airspace to do it. Look at the transfer function magnitude graphs on WinISD for a glimpse into what it will do.
 
#20 ·
think "golden rectangle."

And if that makes no sense, then think that there is in physics, geometry, and many other kinds of math, a unique link between the principles in place from a golden rectangle, and nature. As it turns out, .707qtc will net a response curve that is ideal. At least, to most. Try it out for yourself.

Here's the response I got:

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The JL exhibits good low freq. response in about a 1.85 cubic foot box, sealed. MY guess is that your sub is in a 1.2-1.3 cube box (or smaller) right now, from JL.

Notice, I put my own SW8000 up against the JL. You can see why I purchased what I did. Granted, the JL will over-power mine in SPL, but in low-freq. extension....I think its fair to say I did my homework.
 
#24 ·
That's what you sacrifice. IF you don't want to increase power then you have to increase box size. Just curious without me running the specs through a box program, how BIG is it?


Well, 400W is what they recommend, but you can always go higher if you use caution and know where it clips(~600-700W) USE CAUTION. Adjusting your crossover will also help increase your power range sometimes. Here is JL's power range chart.

http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs_pages.php?page_id=35