[winkychevelle]

Yeh i seen that on there but wasn't 100% sure it was an isolater.
I hope im done bying music gear and start on the electrical.
Atm i can see me buying the superbeast and configure it as need so i have 2x12v banks
While not 100% needed id like to add a 370amp alternator and an isolator.
I have till spring to buy it all as thats when i finalize my build.

with that alternator id still keep my 2x AGM cells and add the 2 lithium banks.
that should be good for a 10k watt system. Im at that now, i just try and forget about how much all that power cost.
Luckily i just have a large car and not a van or suv,its all thats holding me back is space to put things.

If you want 10kw of capability I'd suggest 160ah lifepo4 or more even with the 370amp alt. I'd also suggest tying the rear lithium batts directly to the alt positive post and keeping them somewhat isolated from the agm. If you just parallel them with the agm you could stack resistances and the rear lithium may end up with a slower recharge rate. Really the agm would likely drag down your system overall at that point and I would experiment with removing the agm to see the effect. Many people actually gain performance when removing the agms.

 

[DasFriek]

Id like the extra capacity to be able to listen to my radio with the engine off for once.
i know very little about this, but putting all 4 in parallel and put the audio system on the last lithium bank is what comes to mind first off.
i have no issue in removing one agm,but getting rid of both would take some testing and faith.

 

[winkychevelle]

Id like the extra capacity to be able to listen to my radio with the engine off for once.
i know very little about this, but putting all 4 in parallel and put the audio system on the last lithium bank is what comes to mind first off.
i have no issue in removing one agm,but getting rid of both would take some testing and faith.

Yea reserve is one thing I'm unsure of with lithium. Most of the guys I know run them for the amperage discharge and charge capacity. I plan on swapping my trucks. Agm for lithium at some point.

 

[DasFriek]

Droppinhz.com has new XSPower lifepo4 cells for $299
XS Power Li-PS925XR Lithium Powersports Battery

• $299.99$299.99
• SAVE $200

Supposedly someone screwed up and swapped the terminals.
They also have B-Stock Ioxus UC31 Smart Super Capacitor XS Power for $119 I watched video’s on these and i used to be against the one big cap deal, Those dont really do much. But these superbanks of caps really do what people thought they were buying years ago.
between the two i can see if i need another alternator as mines 180a,but its not stable for what i need. If these two show promise ill buy the superbeast and have 1 agm,3 lifepo4’s and the supercap bank.
sorry about the font,i forgot how to fix it after that copy/paste.
But if im ever going to get my SALT4 amp installed i gotta get my electrical right.

I wanted to buy the superbeast over the XSPower lithium, But their financing made it an easy way in.a

 

[ItsonlyaHONDA]

Droppinhz.com has new XSPower lifepo4 cells for $299
XS Power Li-PS925XR Lithium Powersports Battery

• $299.99$299.99
• SAVE $200

Supposedly someone screwed up and swapped the terminals.
They also have B-Stock Ioxus UC31 Smart Super Capacitor XS Power for $119 I watched video’s on these and i used to be against the one big cap deal, Those dont really do much. But these superbanks of caps really do what people thought they were buying years ago.
between the two i can see if i need another alternator as mines 180a,but its not stable for what i need. If these two show promise ill buy the superbeast and have 1 agm,3 lifepo4’s and the supercap bank.
sorry about the font,i forgot how to fix it after that copy/paste.
But if im ever going to get my SALT4 amp installed i gotta get my electrical right.

I wanted to buy the superbeast over the XSPower lithium, But their financing made it an easy way in.a

Sounds like you got some deals.

 

[DasFriek]

Thats why i been buying so much, I cant pass up a good deal on something i need/may need.
This coming month i need to get a battery isolator and some warm weather cause im not putting that SALT4 in till my electrical is beefed up.
Between the lifepo4 cell and superbank caps i think my 180a alternator may hold its own.
Even now its fluctuating .4v but i still see my led headlights flickering, Once that stops ill add the second lifepo4 cell. If it doesnt stop stillq im going for the 320a alternator.

 

[dumdum]

Lithium cells
Lto banks you want 14.8v minimum charging voltage

lifePo4 bank work better with oem alternators and charging less than 14.8

the reason you might see lto batteries like maybe something xs power has and being used with oem alts is because they build them with one less cell
Within each type of lithium like lto or lifePo4 there is them different chemistry like headway or Shenquan
Or lishen and yinlong. They each have their ideal voltage range and charge voltage and different C rates.

14.6 is the absolute max for lifepo4… but ideally below that (14.2-14.4) for reasons I’ve already given… 14.5-15.5 is good for lto

 

[JohnnyOhh]

maybe pass on the ioxus cap? it has an ominous disclaimer.....
just on that item, i don't understand how these online companies are selling these things to people, aaahh whatever.

"Disclaimer

This capacitor module was previously the subject of two NHTSA motor vehicle safety recalls for use in on-road vehicles due to the possibility of an internal short resulting in energy from the battery draining into the power board, further resulting in smoke and possibly fire. For further information, refer to NHTSA Recall Notice Nos. 19E078 and 19V916, available at nhtsa.gov/recalls. Resale of the capacitor module for on-road use is illegal under federal law.

The risk of an internal short leading to a thermal event remains in using the capacitor module in an off-road application. Purchaser hereby releases and agrees to indemnify and hold Systematic Power Solutions, LLC, SVJ Holdings, LLC and Systematic Power Manufacturing, LLC harmless from and against any and all claims, damages and judgments arising fromuse of this capacitor module in any application whatsoever, resulting in damage to person (including death) or property.

SYSTEMATIC POWER SOLUTIONS, LLC, SVJ HOLDINGS, LLC AND SYSTEMATIC POWER MANUFACTURING, LLC HEREBY MAKE NO WARRANTY, EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, WITH RESPECT TO THE CAPACITOR MODULE OR USE THEREOF. ALL WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE HEREBY EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT. PURCHASER ACCEPTS THE CAPACITOR MODULE “AS-IS”, “WHERE-IS”, WITH ALL FAULTS AND DEFECTS."

 

[Bushwacker]

After reading the disclaimer I wouldn't want to install the loxus in my competitors vehicle, let alone my vehicle. I would be scared it would burn the vehicle down.

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[dumdum]

Just go lithium, as much as you can, I’d also avoid XS power and get far more for your cash with a superbeast, a 180a alt should just about run 4kw at 14.4v but not at 14.7v, that’s too high for lifepo4 regardless of what dubious spec sheets say

 

[Selkec]

Just go lithium, as much as you can, I’d also avoid XS power and get far more for your cash with a superbeast, a 180a alt should just about run 4kw at 14.4v but not at 14.7v, that’s too high for lifepo4 regardless of what dubious spec sheets say

14.6 is the absolute max for lifepo4… but ideally below that (14.2-14.4) for reasons I’ve already given… 14.5-15.5 is good for lto

that is correct. Not sure why I was thinking 14.8 Max is 3.65v per cell

the beast and super beast is probably the best bang for buck deal there is on lithium and will blow away any xs power lithium for a fraction of the price

 

[DasFriek]

they had 2 issues and the whole batch of ioxus were written off. I bet we give everone hear one with directions and live help and still we would have more than 3 issues.
both items were financed and at a time i had other things to buy.

The superbank cap and superbeast together im rather sure i dont need a new alternator,but if i do ill be the first to admit its needed. My car is too good looking and low milage to watch go up in flames,AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SAVE MY AMPS!!!

 

[saltyone]

maybe pass on the ioxus cap? it has an ominous disclaimer.....
just on that item, i don't understand how these online companies are selling these things to people, aaahh whatever.

"Disclaimer

This capacitor module was previously the subject of two NHTSA motor vehicle safety recalls for use in on-road vehicles due to the possibility of an internal short resulting in energy from the battery draining into the power board, further resulting in smoke and possibly fire. For further information, refer to NHTSA Recall Notice Nos. 19E078 and 19V916, available at nhtsa.gov/recalls. Resale of the capacitor module for on-road use is illegal under federal law.

The risk of an internal short leading to a thermal event remains in using the capacitor module in an off-road application. Purchaser hereby releases and agrees to indemnify and hold Systematic Power Solutions, LLC, SVJ Holdings, LLC and Systematic Power Manufacturing, LLC harmless from and against any and all claims, damages and judgments arising fromuse of this capacitor module in any application whatsoever, resulting in damage to person (including death) or property.

SYSTEMATIC POWER SOLUTIONS, LLC, SVJ HOLDINGS, LLC AND SYSTEMATIC POWER MANUFACTURING, LLC HEREBY MAKE NO WARRANTY, EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, WITH RESPECT TO THE CAPACITOR MODULE OR USE THEREOF. ALL WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE HEREBY EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT. PURCHASER ACCEPTS THE CAPACITOR MODULE “AS-IS”, “WHERE-IS”, WITH ALL FAULTS AND DEFECTS."

SPL guys like living on the edge I guess. 🤷🏼‍♂️

No way I’d put one of these anywhere near my truck. That’s just me though. 😂

 

[DasFriek]

Im no spl guy. I bet every SQ guy here listen to their system’s louder than i do.
I just like good equipment.
Example: i want an 18” sub somewhere that only plays 10hz-30hz or about there so i can have the lowest down firing bass possible with 1300watt-2k watts on it. possibly in my spare tire well firing into it and sound deadning lining. Add another Epicenter micro to it.

That sound like SPL?
I actually take offence to being called an SPL guy.
Would an spl guy want 4- 6x9” Infinity Kappa’s for thier mid bass and midrange capabilities in my doors and rear fill?

Get to know someone before attaching names pls…
Is it because i like high powered amps over German amplifiers?
POWER,is power but it depends on how you use that power.

 

[saltyone]

Im no spl guy. I bet every SQ guy here listen to their system’s louder than i do.
I just like good equipment.
Example: i want an 18” sub somewhere that only plays 10hz-30hz or about there so i can have the lowest down firing bass possible with 1300watt-2k watts on it. possibly in my spare tire well firing into it and sound deadning lining. Add another Epicenter micro to it.

That sound like SPL?
I actually take offence to being called an SPL guy.
Would an spl guy want 4- 6x9” Infinity Kappa’s for thier mid bass and midrange capabilities in my doors and rear fill?

Get to know someone before attaching names pls…
Is it because i like high powered amps over German amplifiers?
POWER,is power but it depends on how you use that power.

It was a generalization, not directed at you. Don’t take my comment personally, but it is true for SPL guys (which we’ve established you are not 😁). I was responding to Johnny…not you.

 

[ItsonlyaHONDA]

If it makes every one feel better you can call me an SPL guy.😃 I run XS-POWER too, and I love running my subs to the edge of spontaneous combustion. I also mainly listen to Rap, the Reggeton type of rap, and EDM. pretty much mono music with loads of bass.You can call me what ever you like I won't take offense. Just don't call me papi, the wife won't like that.😉

 

[ItsonlyaHONDA]

Damn millennials....

 

[Bushwacker]

@ItsonlyaHONDA I'm like you call me anything you like just don't call me late for dinner! Lol

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